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Old 11-13-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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Default How the Evangelicals Doomed the Republican Party, God and (Maybe) America

Just a few exerpts from a very interesting article written by someone that was once part of that community...

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These days the Right disputes the facts from how life evolved to unemployment numbers to where the President was born. For instance the Right disputes the reality of climate change and our human contributions to that change. Evangelicals have mostly signed up for this often oil and coal companies-funded alternative view of “reality” because their theology teaches them to reject the “world” and look for some other explanation of the cosmos and everything in it than that offered by science.

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How the Evangelicals Doomed the Republican Party, God and (Maybe) America

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Just a few exerpts from a very interesting article written by someone that was once part of that community...



How the Evangelicals Doomed the Republican Party, God and (Maybe) America
The values evangelicals champion were pretty much universally accepted in America from Plymouth rock to the late 1960s. Only since the 1960s has evangelical Christianity become increasingly taboo. The problem for Republicans is evangelicals have not changed with the times, most importantly become accepting of once taboo sex practices that are now mainstream. We have a younger generation that hates traditional religion and hates evangelical Christianity who vote pretty solidly Democrat. They vote for policies that will destroy this country because they have such a hatred for Christianity they cannot possibly vote for a candidate that has the support of the evangelical community. Why the hatred for Christianity? Perceived homophobia is probably the most significant.

Bottom line its not evangelicals who doomed America. They have simply held to tradition. It's today's socialist liberals have have universal support from young people who vote for them only because they approve of their sex preferences. End of story.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Bottom line its not evangelicals who doomed America. They have simply held to tradition. It's today's socialist liberals have have universal support from young people who vote for them only because they approve of their sex preferences. End of story.
Their holding to tradition is why they've doomed themselves. The country is moving forward without them. Either change or slowly fade away.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Here are my answers to the accusations in the article. That article is pretty much pure liberal propaganda.

An alternative version of reality from creationism to denial of global warming - Creationism can be anything from theistic evolution to young earth creationism. Why does it matter to you liberals what people believe anyways? As for global warming, there are few deniers, even in religion. Where the debate is is how much is caused by human activity.

The “fact” that Jesus will soon return so that none of this matters anyway - Islam teaches that Jihad will get one paradise and virgins. Liberals champion Islam for cultural diversity. Once again, why aren't liberals content to allow Christians to believe what they choose?

The “fact” that America must always defend Israel because the “Bible says so” — even as Israel slides into becoming an apartheid state that will be submerged by its own structural Zionist injustice to Arabs and may take its “greatest ally” (the USA) down with it - Quite ironic how liberals are against the one middle eastern country to have legal gay marriage, while embracing the Arab nations who kill homosexuals

The refusal to embrace gay rights - Homosexuality is against the Christian Bible and was socially unacceptable in America and the world before pretty much the past 15 years. Most young people are passionately for gay rights, but you can't force people who grew up in a time when homosexuality was equated with pedophilia to all of a sudden accept it as the wonderful, enlightened thing America today says it is.

The whites-in-charge mentality even as demographics change and America becomes a brown country - This is untrue. Go to any megachurch today and you will see all different enthicities represented

The circle-the-wagons head-in-the-sand home “school” movement pitting individuals against their communities - So what, parents have the right to home school their kids. Most homeschoolers have communities in which their gets socialize and even compete in sports with other homeschoolers. You just hate homeschooling because it means there are kids who are out of reach from your liberal indoctrination

The odd alliance with the NRA and “gun rights” by Christians who say they follow the Jesus who said ”turn the other cheek” - You ban guns and only criminals have guns. Plus, once the second amendment falls, the rest of the Bill of Rights will soon fall as well. Of course, you would want that because you ultimately want to ban Christianity, and can't because of that pesky First Amendment.

The retributive version of war as a way of life to punish the world for “not liking” us - I strongly disagree with this and think war should be a last resort.

The acceptance of the lies and outright racism of the shrill anti-Obama Fox News-type reaction to a black man in the White House… - More liberal propaganda. Obama is the most anti-American, left-wing radical to have ever been President. It has nothing to do with him being a black man.

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Their holding to tradition is why they've doomed themselves. The country is moving forward without them. Either change or slowly fade away.
This country was doing very well through most of its history until somewhere we decided that the Biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah was a good model for our country.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Bottom line its not evangelicals who doomed America. They have simply held to tradition.
Grotesquely stupid tradition, in most cases. Tradition itself is neutral. It does not confer an advantage, or insulation from criticism, on ignorant and wrong policies.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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Voters blamed Obama and democrats at mid term and never return the house or senate super majority this elction. I think perhaps it Democrats not beig able to live witht eh truth of who has failed. just anther incombent that won second term much as Clinton and Bush did.God;liberal part of teh democratic party has a hardtime facig the truth.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Boise
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christianity in some forms is a beautiful religion and/or concept.... jesus story is very lovely and considering someone dying for us all, BUT.. doesn't mean it's true.. and evangelical christianity is the most hateful, judgmental, putrid form of the religion...
I once had an evangelical lady get in my face and condemn me for not having a "daily relationship with jesus christ my savior" very militant, with no spirit of compromise or respect for anything other than their point of view. people get tired of it and karma's a B***h, now people have little respect or tolerance for their point of views and they're being left by the wayside.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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So much tolerance of evangelicals from the tolerant --- not to mention loving -- Left. Truly inspiring.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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So much tolerance of evangelicals from the tolerant --- not to mention loving -- Left. Truly inspiring.
Sorry that we don't make it easier on evangelicals to practices their prejudices . . . oops, I mean "tradition."
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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Just a few exerpts from a very interesting article written by someone that was once part of that community...

How the Evangelicals Doomed the Republican Party, God and (Maybe) America
The author is an angry man, still struggling to find his place in a world that he doesn't really understand, and never liked. His anger isn't at God, it's at himself and his parents, and anyone who believes in God.

He's making up his own "reality", an image of evangelicals, that justifies his anger. He's a man with an deep inner struggle, trying to find the answers for it, and someone to blame, in the world around him.

Not all Republicans are evangelical, nor are all evangelicals Republicans. That anyone would try use him as a credible commentator on the subject is not thinking clearly himself and is most likely doing it for ulterior motives.
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