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Old 11-23-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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I'm talking about those who willingly and consciously refuse medical care (at least our western corporate profit medical industry "care") because they feel it is hazardous to their health. Or refuse for moral or religious reasons. As I said, it's a very deliberate choice.
I see this as a non-issue. Very few people refuse all medical care if they are in a car accident, or break a leg, or have a stroke or heart attack. Very few people (none?) just take care of these problems themselves.

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Old 11-23-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Default The danger of a Personhood law.

Extreme restrictions on abortion puts the mother's life at risk. This is one example of the danger of restricting abortions:

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a 31-year old dentist, was admitted to hospital in severe pain on Oct. 21 and asked for a termination after doctors said her baby would not survive, according to husband Praveen, but in a country with some of the world's most restrictive abortion laws, surgeons would not remove the foetus until its heartbeat stopped days later.
Ireland opens new probe into death of woman denied abortion | Reuters

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Savita, a 31-year-old dentist, had died of blood poisoning after being denied an abortion for a miscarrying fetus under Ireland's strict laws, her husband says.
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Three days after the request for a termination was made, the fetus died and was removed.
Four days later, Savita was dead from a blood infection.
Husband wants answers over wife whose death sparked abortion debate - CNN.com
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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If that women got an infection that is resistant to current antibiotics nothing would have helped her. I think that is what they said happened to her. Many die today in the same way. Some infections are now becoming resistant to any antibiotics, that is why drug companies are always working on new ones.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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If that women got an infection that is resistant to current antibiotics nothing would have helped her. I think that is what they said happened to her. Many die today in the same way. Some infections are now becoming resistant to any antibiotics, that is why drug companies are always working on new ones.
And you are basing your expert diagnosis in this case on what exactly?
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:18 PM
 
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Ugly, ugly assumption
The Indian people are in need of dentists moreso than Ireland.

Ireland is for the Irish, not for Indians.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:26 PM
 
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If that women got an infection that is resistant to current antibiotics nothing would have helped her. I think that is what they said happened to her. Many die today in the same way. Some infections are now becoming resistant to any antibiotics, that is why drug companies are always working on new ones.
FYI, deadly infection, among other complications, is a risk of carrying a dead fetus!
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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The Indian people are in need of dentists moreso than Ireland.

Ireland is for the Irish, not for Indians.
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These sheeple out here don't understand the situation. Blacks, Mexicans, Hipsters, and other assorted liberals and misfits are concentrated in dense cities, many renting, not owning land. Of these groups, a very small minority have any semblance of self-reliance.
Shouldn't you be at whitepower.com or some other site like that? You should really stick to your own people online.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:32 PM
 
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And you are basing your expert diagnosis in this case on what exactly?
Perhaps she was channeling Bill Frist?
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:50 PM
 
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Never said I was pro-life Just anti murdering babies.... If this was a case of a medical necessity then why was she not given the abortion? Law says right there that she can have it if truly was a medical necessity. Obviously it wasn't.
FYI, if the mother dies, so does the fetus.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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Yes she died...so either she did something to herself to make herself sick or she was in medical distress and the medical folks screwed up.
Or the amniotic fluid sac had ruptured which led to her deadly sepsis. Often early labor ruptures this sac. Any pregnancy that lasts over 24 hours after rupture of this sac leads to fatal sepsis. Baby dies either way.
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