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Old 11-15-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: New Brunswick
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I don't see the difference with liberal or conservative politicians. Both politicians and big business are the ones with all of the money.
It's up to Americans together to demand accountability in both.
It's up to Americans together for politicians to work together to solve Americas problems

Liberals and Conservatives I know it's hard but in todayís climate I think itís important that you understand each other.
Give the other side a chance at least. Maybe it's time to sacrifice idealism for the greater good. Don't be so judgmental towards the other side.

Liberals don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Conservatives are all wrong
Conservatives don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Liberals are all wrong

It seems that in the last 20 years America has gotten more polarize and things have gotten worse and worse.
Doesnít it stand to reason that by putting on a united front and expecting politicians to do the same that things will get better?
These days for Liberals and Conservatives to work together feels like the undiscovered frontier.

Americans of all stripes are in this together. It's polarization and radicalism which will ultimately destroy America.

Divided we fall. United we stand
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I don't see the difference with liberal or conservative politicians. Both politicians and big business are the ones with all of the money.
It's up to Americans together to demand accountability in both.
It's up to Americans together for politicians to work together to solve Americas problems

Liberals and Conservatives I know it's hard but in todayís climate I think itís important that you understand each other.
Give the other side a chance at least. Maybe it's time to sacrifice idealism for the greater good. Don't be so judgmental towards the other side.

Liberals don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Conservatives are all wrong
Conservatives don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Liberals are all wrong

It seems that in the last 20 years America has gotten more polarize and things have gotten worse and worse.
Doesnít it stand to reason that by putting on a united front and expecting politicians to do the same that things will get better?
These days for Liberals and Conservatives to work together feels like the undiscovered frontier.

Americans of all stripes are in this together. It's polarization and radicalism which will ultimately destroy America.

Divided we fall. United we stand
Why? They earned their money. Why do people have such issues with businesses or people who earn what they have?
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New Brunswick
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Why? They earned their money. Why do people have such issues with businesses or people who earn what they have?

I said big business and politicians both are the ones with all of the money. Are you all right with politicians being in bed with business persons?
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I said big business and politicians both are the ones with all of the money. Are you all right with politicians being in bed with business persons?
So? If you want it, go do what they did. If you're not willing to. Shut up.

They wouldn't have to be in bed with politicians if the system were fair. They are because it is unfair and wants to rape them for DARING to be successful. Success is something we should be proud of and encouraging not villifying. If we had more big successful companies, we'd have fewer people out of work.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: New Brunswick
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So? If you want it, go do what they did. If you're not willing to. Shut up.

They wouldn't have to be in bed with politicians if the system were fair. They are because it is unfair and wants to rape them for DARING to be successful. Success is something we should be proud of and encouraging not villifying. If we had more big successful companies, we'd have fewer people out of work.

If Liberals are villifying success then they need to work on their message. No one should feel they are villified for being successful. Liberals should question their view points and help make America strong.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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It would help if republicans would ditch this universall martyrdom syndrome that they all pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps without any help from any outside source, on any level.

Pissing on people's back telling them it's raining, ain't exactly how trickle down economics is suppose to work, but it's essentially what happens in practice.

Three best things to happen to me in life. 1)born male 2)born white 3)born to an affluent family. None of which I had any control over, but it sure as hell gave me a huge leg up in America. More people in my situation have to come to this realization, and the key to fixing most our problems starts with a solid education.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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I don't see the difference with liberal or conservative politicians. Both politicians and big business are the ones with all of the money.
It's up to Americans together to demand accountability in both.
It's up to Americans together for politicians to work together to solve Americas problems

Liberals and Conservatives I know it's hard but in todayís climate I think itís important that you understand each other.
Give the other side a chance at least. Maybe it's time to sacrifice idealism for the greater good. Don't be so judgmental towards the other side.

Liberals don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Conservatives are all wrong
Conservatives don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Liberals are all wrong

It seems that in the last 20 years America has gotten more polarize and things have gotten worse and worse.
Doesnít it stand to reason that by putting on a united front and expecting politicians to do the same that things will get better?
These days for Liberals and Conservatives to work together feels like the undiscovered frontier.

Americans of all stripes are in this together. It's polarization and radicalism which will ultimately destroy America.

Divided we fall. United we stand



The problem is the people.
The glorification and defending of wrong.
The critisizing of good, strong values and on & on.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: New Brunswick
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It would help if republicans would ditch this universall martyrdom syndrome that they all pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps without any help from any outside source, on any level.

Three best things to happen to me in life. 1)born male 2)born white 3)born to an affluent family. None of which I had any control over, but it sure as hell gave me a huge leg up in America. More people in my situation have to come to this realization, and the key to fixing most our problems starts with a solid education.

Yes that's right republicans need to take a good look at their ideals and combine them better with the liberals. The liberals are right at least about some things.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: New Brunswick
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The problem is the people.
The glorification and defending of wrong.
The critisizing of good, strong values and on & on.

The problem is that the people don't want to listen to the other side. They only want to listen to those who agree with their view points and that is going to make America go down the drain just as it has been doing ever since people have gotten a "us" and "them" mentality.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I don't see the difference with liberal or conservative politicians. Both politicians and big business are the ones with all of the money.
It's up to Americans together to demand accountability in both.
It's up to Americans together for politicians to work together to solve Americas problems

Liberals and Conservatives I know it's hard but in today’s climate I think it’s important that you understand each other.
Give the other side a chance at least. Maybe it's time to sacrifice idealism for the greater good. Don't be so judgmental towards the other side.

Liberals don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Conservatives are all wrong
Conservatives don't be afraid to question your ideals or assume your ideals are totally right. Don't assume that the Liberals are all wrong

It seems that in the last 20 years America has gotten more polarize and things have gotten worse and worse.
Doesn’t it stand to reason that by putting on a united front and expecting politicians to do the same that things will get better?
These days for Liberals and Conservatives to work together feels like the undiscovered frontier.

Americans of all stripes are in this together. It's polarization and radicalism which will ultimately destroy America.

Divided we fall. United we stand
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