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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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I would like to know if the majority of Israelis support what their gov't is doing.
Hard to say. I'd have to believe there are many for it, many against it.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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Then why are we supporting, training, funding, and arming al Qaeda, MB and other jihadi's?
We like to diversify.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Anti-Semites who pretend sympathy for people they'd hate under any under circumstances. If Palestinian leaders ran here we'd call them extreme far right KKK members. But they're sticking it to the Jews so let's support them!
This goes for Christian Palestinians also? Are they exempt from Israeli bombing? Or do they not count because they make up 10-20% of the population only?

I take it you support forcible extraction of US taxpayer funds for another country?
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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You anti-Israel leftists are all a bunch of ridiculous hypocrites. You rightfully condemn the religious right . . . and then you turn around and support the Hamas and the Palestinians in their quest to replace Israel with an Islamic theocracy.

It's disgusting. If a group of right wing religious fanatics were shelling your own damned cities you'd be the first to demand action. But when said religous fanatics shell Israeli cities all of sudden it's okay because well they're Muslim.

Disgusting!
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Another strawman argument. This isn't about religion, which is good which is bad, it's about people dying because countries thrive on war and domination, instead of seeking peace.
Whatever. Ask this guy what he thinks:


John Hagee for Israel: 'Prevent Obama from sacrificing G-d's holy Israel for Palestine" CUFI'11 - YouTube
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You anti-Israel leftists are all a bunch of ridiculous hypocrites. You rightfully condemn the religious right . . . and then you turn around and support the Hamas and the Palestinians in their quest to replace Israel with an Islamic theocracy.

It's disgusting. If a group of right wing religious fanatics were shelling your own damned cities you'd be the first to demand action. But when said religous fanatics shell Israeli cities all of sudden it's okay because well they're Muslim.

Disgusting!
I guarantee that I'm more right wing than you are and I do not support Israel other than through prayer, and that is much better than money.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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This goes for Christian Palestinians also? Are they exempt from Israeli bombing? Or do they not count because they make up 10-20% of the population only?

I take it you support forcible extraction of US taxpayer funds for another country?
The majority of Palestinians are Muslim. Palestinian Christians have been repeatedly pushed out by Muslim fundies. I suppose that okay, right? Incidentally there's a sizeable minority of Israelis who are Christian and Muslim. Is it okay to shell them?

BTW, we fund the Palestinians too. We also fund the Egyptians to the tune of millions while they oppress Christians and non-fundy Muslims. Are you okay with that? Or is it just money that goes to Israelis that bugs you?
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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You anti-Israel leftists are all a bunch of ridiculous hypocrites. You rightfully condemn the religious right . . . and then you turn around and support the Hamas and the Palestinians in their quest to replace Israel with an Islamic theocracy.

It's disgusting. If a group of right wing religious fanatics were shelling your own damned cities you'd be the first to demand action. But when said religous fanatics shell Israeli cities all of sudden it's okay because well they're Muslim.

Disgusting!
I don't support either side. I think the military and leaders of both sides are jackasses big time.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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You Europeans have been brainwashed by the Arab media and your guilt about the holocaust. You don't want to think that your grandparents helped murder millions of Jews so you focus on Israel's minor crimes to make you feel better about yourself.

Otherwise you'd never support a group of Islamic nationalist theocrats. You're the ones who need to take a look at yourselves and ask why.
I believe we are for humanity and humanitarian conditions for all. This is as much true today for Palestinians under Israel oppression as it was for the Jews under Hitler.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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I guarantee that I'm more right wing than you are and I do not support Israel other than through prayer, and that is much better than money.
I have never voted right wing in my life and never will. The right wing is disgusting. They want to force us all into serfdom and theocracy.

I just fail to understand the leftist sympathy for the Palestinians in their quest to establish a Muslim fundie state. Any state established by Hamas is hardly going to be some leftist utopia. It would probably be the opposite. So why the sympathy?
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