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Old 11-24-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Ok. I looked it up.
I'd say odds are pretty good that with your 5-10 minutes of looking into it you've more informed and have read far more about that program than the Agenda 21 tin hatters in this thread. To them it is just more words used in talking points that they've seen over and over, to be regurgitated.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Ok. I looked it up.

The program has a total of 682,000 acres of land... out of a total of 34,721,280 acres of total land in Florida.
So the program conserves about 2% of the total land mass of Florida for endangered species and nature.

Aside from that funding is appropriated by the legislature it is distributed by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection to a number of state agencies and programs to purchase public lands in the form of parks, trails, forests, wildlife management areas and more. All of these lands are held in trust for the citizens of Florida.

The land (the 682,000 acres) is divided into several functions:
Division of State Lands - 35%
Stan Mayfield Working Waterfront - 2.5%
Florida Communities Trust - 21%
Division of Recreation and Parks - 1.5%
Office of Greenways and Trails - 1.5%
Florida Recreation Development Assistance Program (FRDAP) - 2%
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission - 1.5%
Florida Forest Service, DACS - 1.5%
Rural & Family Lands, DACS - 3.5%
Water Management Districts - 30%

While most acquisitions are purchases, the state may accept donations. These follow the same closing process as an acquisition, without the monetary exchange. How is the fact that people want to sell their land to the state for this purpose a problem for you?
Thank you for actually looking. Florida Forever is just part of the land grab. The state owns 9.3 million acres in Florida. They won't be happy until they have it all I'm sure. Big bro owns 27% of Florida.

http://fnai.org/PDF/Maacres_201202_FCL_plus_LTF.pdf
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A bit biased, are we?
The worst part of the poster you answered is that he/she didn't listen too any part of that video and has to use Tea Party as an excuse. Yep, as long as people like that refuse to see anything from a Tea Party meeting they will soon find themselves living (maybe) under a government run by the UN and its Agenda 21.

Actually, it makes me feel very bad when I ask anyone, especially liberals what they know about Agenda 21 and they tell me they know nothing about it. Ignorance is bliss and most of these people who use excuses like Tea Party as an excuse for their ignorance make me wonder how soon their absolute ignorance will put this thing on top of us.

Rosa Koire has tried very hard to expose the UN for what Agenda 21 is and serves as a state officer of Democrats Against Agenda 21 in California. Of course, she knows a bit about what Agenda 21 is supposed to do to us especially since so many of the California governing bodies have been taken in by ICLEI which is an important part of the wool the UN is using to pull over the eyes of progressives.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Thank you for actually looking. Florida Forever is just part of the land grab. The state owns 9.3 million acres in Florida. They won't be happy until they have it all I'm sure. Big bro owns 27% of Florida.

http://fnai.org/PDF/Maacres_201202_FCL_plus_LTF.pdf
Ok.... so what? States and the Fed bought land for conservation and recreation prior to Agenda 21. When was this land acquired? Earlier you said people weren't allowed on the land which is a blatant lie. Keep ignoring me.... makes you look more pathetic.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Oh and 5.4 million acres is for water management.... that isn't important. Water management is communist, socialist, facists crap.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The worst part of the poster you answered is that he/she didn't listen too any part of that video and has to use Tea Party as an excuse. Yep, as long as people like that refuse to see anything from a Tea Party meeting they will soon find themselves living (maybe) under a government run by the UN and its Agenda 21.

Actually, it makes me feel very bad when I ask anyone, especially liberals what they know about Agenda 21 and they tell me they know nothing about it. Ignorance is bliss and most of these people who use excuses like Tea Party as an excuse for their ignorance make me wonder how soon their absolute ignorance will put this thing on top of us.

Rosa Koire has tried very hard to expose the UN for what Agenda 21 is and serves as a state officer of Democrats Against Agenda 21 in California. Of course, she knows a bit about what Agenda 21 is supposed to do to us especially since so many of the California governing bodies have been taken in by ICLEI which is an important part of the wool the UN is using to pull over the eyes of progressives.
Basically your whole argument boils down to wild speculation.

Out of curiosity, do you tin foil hat wearers believe if the UN hadn't made these voluntary, non-binding guidelines would you support local, state, and federal efforts to go ahead with it?
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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Basically your whole argument boils down to wild speculation.

Out of curiosity, do you tin foil hat wearers believe if the UN hadn't made these voluntary, non-binding guidelines would you support local, state, and federal efforts to go ahead with it?

It's not wild speculation, it is fact and it is happening.

Trying to be patient here. Are you asking if the local, state or Federal government came up with a similar population/water/land control program on its own sans UN influence, would we support it if it was identical to Agenda 21? I can only speak for myself, but I sincerely doubt I would. Especially anything to do with a carbon tax. That's complete and total BS.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Basically your whole argument boils down to wild speculation.

Out of curiosity, do you tin foil hat wearers believe if the UN hadn't made these voluntary, non-binding guidelines would you support local, state, and federal efforts to go ahead with it?
Go ahead and tell me how much you know about Agenda 21. Do you even know where the name comes from or the plan to instigate it came from?

It is pretty obvious that you didn't watch one bit of the Rosa Koire video and don't know that she is a member of the California Democrats Against Agenda 21. You don't know much, if anything, about ICLEI and how it has been used by local governments to further the plan, up to now. Go ahead and listen to the lady who tells so much about what has happened in the part of California she lives in.

While we are at it, how much about Koire's sexual orientation do you know? Not that it is important but she does admit to what she is in this speech.

Yes, most of you who lean at all know very little about Agenda 21 and you avoid any chance to find out about it and what it is. I have tried and tried and most of those who don't know anything about Agenda 21 refuse to try to learn anything about it.

Wild speculation, you say? When will you learn something about the thing so you can ask intelligent questions like your last one in the post? You learn something about it and then come back at me about wild speculation. Learn what ICLEI has done and then lets talk. Learn how many local governments in the US have joined in and been pushing the Agenda because of ICLEI. When you learn something more than just the name of the creature maybe you can argue about it without using terms like wild speculation.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Basically your whole argument boils down to wild speculation.

Out of curiosity, do you tin foil hat wearers believe if the UN hadn't made these voluntary, non-binding guidelines would you support local, state, and federal efforts to go ahead with it?
Take a look at this link and tell me what wild speculation is, in your mind. This is a list of the members of ICLEI. I know you don't know a whole lot about what ICLEI is but lets start your learning about it. Here is a list of the member governments in ICLEI and I will ask you that you take a peak at the two nations with far more members than any others. The list for the USA is scary as hell, but then people who don't know about the thing because of forced ignorance about it wouldn't be afraid of it.

ICLEI - Local Governments for Sustainability : Global Members
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Everybody here read this list of words that Agenda 21 people use at their local meetings and see how many of them you have seen used at any time. It is scary that so many people don't know where so many of these terms came from, in the beginning, and just believe they are simple things we all use.

Agenda 21 Word List – Glenn Beck
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