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Old 11-22-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Truth always hurts!!!
But LIES hurt more.

That's why OBAMA is still President and ROMNEY is now pumping his own gas!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1205493
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Last I checked both branches of the Congress and the President all had a part in passing changes to the law, they are all responsible for it originally passing (especially Obama since he signed the original law), they will also be responsible if we fall off the cliff.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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But LIES hurt more.

That's why OBAMA is still President and ROMNEY is now pumping his own gas!
Actually it seems in our culture...that lying pays off..That's why OBAMA is still President!!

BTW...with Obama's energy policy you better hope down the road you can afford gas...
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Actually it seems in our culture...that lying pays off..That's why OBAMA is still President!!

BTW...with Obama's energy policy you better hope down the road you can afford gas...
Actually Republican lies did pay off ... for OBAMA !!!

And hopefully you Republicans will keep on spreading those lies ... 2016 is just around the corner.

It could be a LONG time before a Republican ever occupies the White House again!
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Poetic Justice....How Do You Like Your Dear Marxist Leader Now....Bend over...

Sandy-Ravaged New Jersey Families Face $6,933 Tax Hike in Fiscal Cliff Stalemate | CNS News
1. What this tells you is that the wealthiest states supported Obama. Strange, huh?

2. The tax hike will still affect them much less than it would poorer people in red states.

3. That said, the fiscal cliff is not good for anybody and will (hopefully) be avoided if Congress can behave like adults and actually compromise.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Do you realize the fiscal cliff was created but the Congress with overwhelming GOP support, not by the white house. Study up a little.

The Congress has the choise to avoid across the board tax hikes, or to ensure they will take effect, and based on Bohners comments yesterday it seems like they will prefer to put the hikes in place.
The proposal actually came out of the WH, according to Bob Woodward.

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

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To determine the question of ownership, we turned to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward’s new book The Price of Politics.

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The proposal actually came out of the WH, according to Bob Woodward.

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts
Count the votes to see who passed it. The law in itself is not a bad thing, and the situation proves it was necessary. Without it the Congress would do nothing, it may be that even with it they will do nothing, but if nothing happens, then the spending is cut, and taxes rise for everyone. It forces the limp congress to pull their act together.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Nice job of conveniently overlooking the fact the article also mentions this will occur only IF Congress does not reach an agreement.

Do you find it very difficult going through life so blinded to things you choose not to see?
Why do I keep seeing that several Democrat leaders in Congress are in favor of going ahead and falling off that fictional cliff?
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Bend over - if that Republican Congress can't get it's act together; if they continue to stonewall and gridlock; if their only objective (again) is to thwart President Obama, if they are unable to put their HUGE ego's aside and reach compromise; and finally, if they continue their slobbering lapdog faithfulness to Grover Norquist over the good of the American people.

YOU own it.
I guess you will never learn that the House of Representatives is only one half of the Congress. Go ahead and call them the House and stop sounding like you think the GOP controls the Congress. When you say you own it what you really mean is that our Glorious Leader (who isn't much of a leader) and the Senate continue to refuse to compromise in any way and try to lay all the blame on the House. Political games are always the same.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So with less than 30 days remaining, folks are confident this fiscal cliff will be avoided ?
Congress isn't even earnestly working on it.
Congress isn't even working these days. They need long holiday rest periods and Thanksgiving made a very good excuse to let this thing ride until they come back to work.
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