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Old 11-26-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What the hell are you saying? Freedom to do what? If you are supposed to be in English 101 at 0800, you need to be there. I don't want to go to work today. I would rather watch reruns of Andy Griffith all day. But there are consequences to me not showing up. I also want the freedom to drive 100 MPH on the Ryan Expressway but the Chicago Police have denied me that freedom. And if I do it, I don't think the judge in Traffic Court will be sympathetic to my plea that they restricted my freedoms.


You have just shown, how rules restrict individual freedom.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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Besides the the negative psychological impact of being tracked and monitored, what of the economic ramifications?
The school district should be spending the money on education and not acting as an arm of the prison system.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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You have just shown, how rules restrict individual freedom.
So what's your solution? Total anarchy?

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Sadly so may have become so easy to manipulate.



Just insert public school into the definition as it applys here as well.
Get those young minds while they are maleable.
Another reason to get your kids out of public school if you love em.
Again, another straw man argument.

Let's address this incident specifically. Why is it a bad thing for the school to keep track of the kids. By your assumption, my children will always keep a curfew because I give them one.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Again, another straw man argument.

Let's address this incident specifically. Why is it a bad thing for the school to keep track of the kids. By your assumption, my children will always keep a curfew because I give them one.

Another reason Private Christian based schools, are booming with business.
Home schooling is on the rise in a big way also.

Government becoming the parent.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Big Brother is alive and well in the USA...

The San Antonio Express-News reports that the Northside Independent School District in Bexar County has embarked on a pilot program to track students using RFID chips embedded in their student ID cards.

San Antonio School District to Track Students with RFID Chips - Yahoo! News

Texas Student EXPELLED For Refusing To Wear RFID Chip Tracking ID Badge
Heard abaou this the other day: that absolutely sucks....
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh it gets better. Now you have school districts using biometrics and palm scanning to track their lunch money accounts.
Each student gets their palm scanned and goes into a database.
Now students buy lunch and put their hand on the scanner which deducts the amount from their lunch account.

Biometrics is more advanced than RFID and is based on body parts which the students can't lose

This is the same technology used in the iris scanners at airports.

Pinellas students to use palm scanners in lunch line | wtsp.com
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:25 AM
 
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Sadly so may have become so easy to manipulate.



Just insert public school into the definition as it applys here as well.
Get those young minds while they are maleable.
Another reason to get your kids out of public school if you love em.

Conditioned thinking. Introduce and foster that the "collective" is more important than the liberty of the individual and when they become voting adults, they won't see the issues and dangers of encroaching government and the disregard for individual liberty. They will have become accustomed to it and support such because it is all they know.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default Students are not considered responsible adults

Students are not considered responsible adults so do not have any "freedoms" of privacy and movement enjoyed by adult citizens. The schools are held responsible for the student's health and location during the school hours. The school districts are just using available technology to do their job. I am surprised that the chips are not surgically implanted to prevent the students from switching ID cards to reduce the effectiveness of the surveillance.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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Again, another straw man argument.

Let's address this incident specifically. Why is it a bad thing for the school to keep track of the kids. By your assumption, my children will always keep a curfew because I give them one.

It isn't a straw man. It is an honest point made concerning the subtle approaches of conditioning to thought and acceptance. Now you can certainly make the argument that this is not guaranteed to happen, but to claim there is no concern of such occurring is specifically ignoring a legitimate possible outcome.
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