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Both of those Bush wars should have been wrapped up years before Obama took office. Now you're whining because Obama hasn't cleaned up Bush's horrible mess fast enough to suit you.
So typical.
Bush didn't run for election promising to bring troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama did make promises in 2008 and has yet to fulfill his promise.
Wars are big business and provide lots of $$$$ and cushy jobs to ex elected officials.
Don't for one minute think only one side promotes war while the other side promotes peace and withdrawal.
They both are hip deep in the military industrial complex.
Bush didn't run for election promising to bring troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama did make promises in 2008 and has yet to fulfill his promise.
In 2008, Obama promised to shift focus to Afghanistan, and specifically, along the (eastern) border with Pakistan which is where the real culprits for 9/11 were supposed to be. He never liked the idea of Iraq war, which remained Bush's focal point. Afghanistan simply appeared a means to get to that end.
Ive consistently said we should not be fighting any wars and should avoid new ones unless directly attacked.
Your post only serves to show there are hypocrites in both parties.
Were do you stand?
You're correct, we shouldn't fight unless attacked. Of course, that will never happen as the purpose of war is now to make money. Will you or I make money? Probably not. Somebody somewhere will, though.
Still paying big time for wars we won 67 years ago!
And how many in Korea?
Losing a war is cheaper, no current troops left in Vietnam.
We have over 700 military facilities on soil OTHER than US soil.
The cost of our empire is too much!
"Losing a war is cheaper, no current troops left in Vietnam."
So True. I'm not a blind Obama supporter as many of the people here are, but I'm pleasantly surprised we are where we are at considering Obama came into office with no Military, no International and no Business experience.
Still paying big time for wars we won 67 years ago!
And how many in Korea?
Losing a war is cheaper, no current troops left in Vietnam.
We have over 700 military facilities on soil OTHER than US soil.
The cost of our empire is too much!
We should close all foreign military bases or make those countries pay 150% of our costs. Foreign bases should be a profit center, not a cost center.
If we started charging for foreign basis those countries would send us home in a heartbeat. When Americans are paying to protect France, Germany, Italy, etc, etc, it's all good. Bring home the troops and reduce our defense budget by 50%.
It is absolutely amazing to see all the anti war Dems go into hiding and ignore Obama's wars. We now have a permanent war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama is spending $170 billion of our hard earned taxes every year on these wars and warmonger Obama has presided over more deaths in Afghanistan in four years than warmonger Bush did in eight years.
Actually the war in Iraq is over....and leaving 10,000 troops in non combative position in Afghanistan isn't really warmongering, we have troops stationed all over the world.
Now if the president wanted to leave 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, then you would be on to something.
You're forgetting the tens of thousands of State Department contractors we'll be leaving behind along with any other PMC forces. Plus the increased use of drone strikes in AfPak. A war by any other name...
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