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Old 11-27-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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I was told that U.S abandoned and withdrawn all troops from South VN, cut off all aid sources in the middle of the way. Is it true ? If was so, Why ?

After war, many Vietnamese officers suicided themself when Vietcong was taking over South Vietnam.
Yes, we reneged on our promised support to South Vietnam. It was the North Vietnamese Army that took over South Vietnam, not the Viet Cong. The Viet Cong had been marginalized by the end of the war, and were finaly pushed out of the picture entirely. The Viet Cong were real losers in Vietnam. They did a lot of the fighting and dying and ended up with no voice at all in the new united Vietnam government.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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I don't know but the veterans who served in Vietnam are some of the greatest heroes this nation has ever known and bravest warriors in the history of mankind. To disrespect them in anyway is anti-american and should be met with the utmost hostility.
They are heroes. I admire, respect them always. Also I feel so sorry for them who went through, sacrificed a lots, and who were passed away in the battle.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Yes, we reneged on our promised support to South Vietnam. It was the North Vietnamese Army that took over South Vietnam, not the Viet Cong. The Viet Cong had been marginalized by the end of the war, and were finaly pushed out of the picture entirely. The Viet Cong were real losers in Vietnam. They did a lot of the fighting and dying and ended up with no voice at all in the new united Vietnam government.
Totally agree. You make me crying now since my father and many my uncles were there. In fact, Pham Van Dong sold a part of Vietnam land and occean to China, so Vietcong could get aid for weapons and food, medicine etc ... to fight with U.S troops and South VN. Right now, China is taking over these and Vietnamese gov't has to give up with no any condition.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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They are heroes. I admire, respect them always. Also I feel so sorry for them who went through, sacrificed a lots, and who were passed away in the battle.
I know that Vietnam combat veterans will appreciate the high regard in which you hold them, but I also know that they had a very high regard for those who fought in Korea and WW2.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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The anti communist hysteria in the USA since 1945 has cost the nation dearly. This obsession was so delusional that it could mistake an anti colonial movement by the Vietnamese to reclaim their own country as part of the world wide communist attempt to take over the world.

When the Brits and the French lost their empires after WW2, why did the USA decide to step in and become the NEW colonial POWER??????? It was clear by then that colonialism had had it's day and it was time to move forward toward a new structure in world affairs. This continuation of colonialism by the USA has probably set world progress back by at least 50 years.

Apparently we haven't learned from the history of the fall of other empires. Furthermore, I feel bad for the troops that were sent over there because of our foreign policy, and then when they get home are treated like second class citizens.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Apparently we haven't learned from the history of the fall of other empires. Furthermore, I feel bad for the troops that were sent over there because of our foreign policy, and then when they get home are treated like second class citizens.
Yes. It was a national disgrace how they were treated when they came home.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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I know that Vietnam combat veterans will appreciate the high regard in which you hold them, but I also know that they had a very high regard for those who fought in Korea and WW2.
Finally, why did US help South Korea until the end, but not South Vietnam ?
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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You, of course, are being ridiculous. The US forces initially deployed to South Vietnam, were advisors in a purely defensive, non combative posture. They were attacked by the Viet Cong and North Vietnam.

The treaty between the US and South Vietnam, like South Korea, was a mutual defense treaty, in which an attack on one nation would be viewed as an attack on both.

Both treaties were through a Democratic Congress and Senate. You insinuation that the US recklessly attacks other nations without provocation is absurd.
Absurd is every Liberals middle name.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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Yes. It was a national disgrace how they were treated when they came home.
Yes, by a bunch of liberal swine.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Yes. It was a national disgrace how they were treated when they came home.

Keep in mind, I'm not against the troops. I am against the policies that put them in harms way. In Vietnam, a lot didn't have a choice, and were drafted, but yet even today with military service being voluntary, I still don't advocate using them to fight other country's wars. At any rate, it is completely disgraceful as to how those who came back from Vietnam were treated. I know that if I were around back then, I would have protested the war as well, but would have never went along with those who spit in the face of the troops, and called them baby killer ect...ect..
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