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Old 11-27-2012, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes, of course. But that is up to them. You are responsible for the choices that you make, as am I. If you don't make a lot of money, don't spend $6/day at Starbucks and have a $200/month cell phone bill and then claim that you don't make a "livable wage". Live within in your means and make some sacrifices for a little while.
I know housekeepers that had a cheap flip phone, didn't drink at Starbucks, and struggled to put food on their table for their family. I think you are confusing those who say they are "broke" with the people who are actually working class poor in our country. As for life choices, not everyone can be a high paid CEO, someone is always going to be needed to clean the toilets, but those people at the bottom should not have to live off government assistance if they are working a 40hr a week job.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually, a couple made no mention of spending cuts. Some people actually do not believe that we have a spending problem. I just don't get it.
"A couple" would mean that "most" liberals in here do support spending cuts.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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That's why I like, support and agree with your idea of incentivizing companies that do not ship jobs overseas; tax breaks and less regulations and red tape.
Companies already get these advantages in a country called China (among others). Unless you want us to work for $2-3/hour, tax breaks and reduced regulations won't do anything. There's absolutely no way we can reduce costs of business as low as they are in China and other developing countries.

We need to go the route of Germany: Increase educations, especially apprenticeships that teach practical, complex skills that are in demand. German did this by creating a partnership between business, government, and unions.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Companies already get these advantages in a country called China (among others). Unless you want us to work for $2-3/hour, tax breaks and reduced regulations won't do anything. There's absolutely no way we can reduce costs of business as low as they are in China and other developing countries.

We need to go the route of Germany: Increase educations, especially apprenticeships that teach practical, complex skills that are in demand. German did this by creating a partnership between business, government, and unions.
And to add to that, we need to separate healthcare from employment to make it easier for one to start a business and to expand their business.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Boise
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cut military spending, end wars, cut corporate subsidies increase taxes on the wealthy. pretty simple really
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:31 PM
 
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cut military spending, end wars, cut corporate subsidies increase taxes on the wealthy. pretty simple really
Not if your wealthy or have stock in Black Water or KBR.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:05 AM
 
Location: USA
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My solution? Let the economy heal, which will naturally raise incomes (and thus tax revenue) and reduce social spending. After that, make cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Or find some immediate way to make medical care not so jaw-droppingly expensive in this country.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:12 AM
 
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What is your specific solution to solve the debt and deficit? I think you are so damn selfish to reelect Obama; convince me otherwise.

Conservatives have zero interest in fixing the debt or the deficit. They don't care about either. What is most important to conservatives is low taxes, defense spending, followed by cutting benefits to the takers, anything else is just a talking point.

I don't care about the national debt. To decrease budget deficits you need a growing economy, increased revenues/taxes and slowing the growth of medicare and medicaid expenses.

I'd slow the growth primarily with spending cuts to doctors and hospitals.

We do those three things, we will have budget surpluses.

That is all it will take. No magical solutions.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:19 AM
 
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cut military spending, end wars, cut corporate subsidies increase taxes on the wealthy. pretty simple really
Does that include the Chevy Volt and Solyndra?
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:20 AM
 
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Conservatives have zero interest in fixing the debt or the deficit. They don't care about either. What is most important to conservatives is low taxes, defense spending, followed by cutting benefits to the takers, anything else is just a talking point.

I don't care about the national debt.
To decrease budget deficits you need a growing economy, increased revenues/taxes and slowing the growth of medicare and medicaid expenses.

I'd slow the growth primarily with spending cuts to doctors and hospitals.

We do those three things, we will have budget surpluses.

That is all it will take. No magical solutions.
I am speechless.
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