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And every liberal that has posted on this thread has said we need modest tax hikes with cuts in spending across the board, like to the military and medicare and SS by increasing the age you can get onto those two programs. As well as a number of other suggested cuts.
No they haven't. However, let's look at what a spending cut, to a liberal politician, seems to be:
So far, the Democrats have used nothing but accounting tricks to back their definition of cutting spending. They haven't actually cut spending, just the proposed spending. To say this is cutting spending is the equivalent of the wife coming home and exclaiming to her husband "I just made you $100" because the shoes she just bought were on sale 1/2 price.
Also, adding $6T to the debt in just four years makes even a modest cut in spending pointless, and a cut to future spending fiscal treason.
Once we (all of us) can agree to define a cut as a bottom-line cut, then we can call it a reduction in spending. Until then, we'll continue to go deeper in debt.
I don't care, and neither do conservatives, that is why when we had budget surpluses instead of conservatives saying lets use that money to pay off our national debt, they cut taxes instead. If you weren't opposed to those tax cuts and demanding that our budget surpluses be used to pay down the debt then you don't care either.
Conservatives have zero interest in fixing the debt or the deficit. They don't care about either. What is most important to conservatives is low taxes, defense spending, followed by cutting benefits to the takers, anything else is just a talking point.
I don't care about the national debt. To decrease budget deficits you need a growing economy, increased revenues/taxes and slowing the growth of medicare and medicaid expenses.
I'd slow the growth primarily with spending cuts to doctors and hospitals.
We do those three things, we will have budget surpluses.
That is all it will take. No magical solutions.
"I don't care about the national debt" is honest, and also very troublesome.
I wouldn't know where to begin. Maybe you should brush up on tort reform and then expand from there. Cutting payments to doctors and hospitals won't fix anything, and frankly, I'm not even sure how to interpret this logic. Obamacare is cutting payments to doctors and insurers, and now they (doctors) are declining new medicare patients. How does driving doctors bankrupt and having a sick populous solve anything?
"I don't care about the national debt" is honest, and also very troublesome.
I wouldn't know where to begin. Maybe you should brush up on tort reform and then expand from there. Cutting payments to doctors and hospitals won't fix anything, and frankly, I'm not even sure how to interpret this logic. Obamacare is cutting payments to doctors and insurers, and now they (doctors) are declining new medicare patients. How does driving doctors bankrupt and having a sick populous solve anything?
I don't care, and neither do conservatives. We had budget surpluses and unless you were demanding that we use our budget surpluses to pay down the debt then you don't care either.
Paying doctors and hospitals less will not bankrupt them. Stop lying. It will solve the problem of growing medicare and medicaid expense, and doctors will see the patients. Believe whatever you want.
Conservatives have zero interest in fixing the debt or the deficit. They don't care about either. What is most important to conservatives is low taxes, defense spending, followed by cutting benefits to the takers, anything else is just a talking point.
I don't care about the national debt. To decrease budget deficits you need a growing economy, increased revenues/taxes and slowing the growth of medicare and medicaid expenses.
I'd slow the growth primarily with spending cuts to doctors and hospitals.
We do those three things, we will have budget surpluses.
That is all it will take. No magical solutions.
"Spending cuts to doctors and hospitals"?
You do realize, don't you, that most of us are poised to drop medicare if the proposed 30% cuts in medicare (set to go into effect Jan 1st) actually occur?
We break even on medicare currently and will simply stop seeing medicare. We currently see essentially zero medicaid. Why in the world would anyone bankrupt thier practice with marked reimbursement cuts?
Your "solutions" would not only be completely ineffective, generate essentially no revenue, and would have a deleterious effect on the economy.
In order to really cut deficits we need
15% VAT
balanced budget amendment
20% cut across the board in spending
10% annual revenues earmarked for debt reduction
There you go- problem solved. NO POLITICIAN will do what is necessary, therefore the nation is finished. Obama's election insured this end; this will be best in the end, as it will result in the "Balkanization" of the US, much like what happened in the old USSR. Let's get it over with quickly and let Obama finish off the nation.
You do realize, don't you, that most of us are poised to drop medicare if the proposed 30% cuts in medicare (set to go into effect Jan 1st) actually occur?
We break even on medicare currently and will simply stop seeing medicare. We currently see essentially zero medicaid. Why in the world would anyone bankrupt thier practice with marked reimbursement cuts?
Your "solutions" would not only be completely ineffective, generate essentially no revenue, and would have a deleterious effect on the economy.
In order to really cut deficits we need
15% VAT
balanced budget amendment
20% cut across the board in spending
10% annual revenues earmarked for debt reduction
There you go- problem solved. NO POLITICIAN will do what is necessary, therefore the nation is finished. Obama's election insured this end; this will be best in the end, as it will result in the "Balkanization" of the US, much like what happened in the old USSR. Let's get it over with quickly and let Obama finish off the nation.
The whole medical profession is government subsidized and paid for.
They'll take less money, complain but get over it.
Your solutions would destroy the economy, would leave millions without medical coverage, social security, etc.
These are things the public doesn't want.
No we pay our doctors and hospitals much more then those professions earn in other nations. The whole medical profession is subsidized by the government exists on the basis of direct government money and government subsidies.
Like I said some physicians will lie and whine, but most will see they can still make a great living and see those patients.
Raising taxes, growing the economy, and slowing down the growth of medicare and medicaid would get rid of budget deficits.
Neoprog is a well known and very accurate term. Neocon, neo prog. A progressive was always a term that was never very accurate so a better one had to be found.
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