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Old 11-28-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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The word needs to go out to any Democrats that even think about messing with Medicare and/or Social Security that there will be a price to pay for it and they will face a certain primary challenge if they choose to turn their backs on the middle and working class just to "give the Republicans" something. NO messing with the age and NO messing with the benefits!

 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Durbin came out with overhaul proposals and said Obama backed him.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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The word needs to go out to any Democrats that even think about messing with Medicare and/or Social Security that there will be a price to pay for it and they will face a certain primary challenge if they choose to turn their backs on the middle and working class just to "give the Republicans" something. NO messing with the age and NO messing with the benefits!
I totally agree, they got us into this mess....and now, they are going to pentalize the aged and social security recipents....who the heck do they think they are.....??????
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Works for me. I say burn it down.

Then see what happens to SS/Medicare.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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People should have spent more time demanding details of how to solve the deficit problem during the campaign instead of social issues.

But they didn't. They were more concerned with their social issues.

And gee..Romney was going to change medicare/SS, not Obama (he was silent on the issue).
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't think it is a great thing to be an idealogue. That is a problem plaguing republicanism, down to taking oath and offering full loyalty to their Lord Norquist.

Those of us who identify self as liberals/progressives (but not necessarily democrats) ought to be pragmatic and realize that my way or high way is not the way to go about it. The immediate need is to apply patches, EVERY WHERE. And then look at root causes to fix the problem.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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The word needs to go out to any Democrats that even think about messing with Medicare and/or Social Security that there will be a price to pay for it and they will face a certain primary challenge if they choose to turn their backs on the middle and working class just to "give the Republicans" something. NO messing with the age and NO messing with the benefits!
You sound exactly like a Tea Partier!
Not one solution- just anger and empty rhetoric.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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This is exactly what the problem is with this whole process. Every sensible person knows that we need some measure of entitlement reform so that the systems will remain solvent for the foreseeable future.

Now you have the "special interests" on both sides saying that they will politically destroy anyone who goes against their wishes.

The Grover Norquists on one side saying any GOP member daring to agree to an increase in taxes will trigger Grover putting everything he has behind their defeat...now you have people like the OP saying anyone who even sniffs at changing SS or Medicare will be crushed.

When people ask why the government can't get anything done, this is why.

Everyone wants someone else to bear the burden for cleaning up our fiscal issues.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:16 AM
 
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People should have spent more time demanding details of how to solve the deficit problem during the campaign instead of social issues.

But they didn't. They were more concerned with their social issues.

And gee..Romney was going to change medicare/SS, not Obama (he was silent on the issue).

absolutely!!!

and by the way, I know two people who have to use socialized medicine in Canada, you cannot believe what they have been thru??? Awful, just awful.
 
Old 11-28-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I agree with Einstein and dman - we have to look at this from ALL angles and keep an open mind.

SS and Medicare are incredibly expensive ~ surely there are ways they can be improved upon so that they can be around for my son's generation. Or, heck, even my generation for that matter.
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