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Old 11-30-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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So many smart, rich people support the Democrats because once they become educated, they think

"Why in the heck should I or anybody else be forced through law to behave in my personal behavior according to a particular group's religious moral beliefs?"

Smart rich people have a great measure of control over their lives, and they are rightly loathe to turn over control of their social lives to groups which seek to force religious morality upon them. Better to be free to live your life and pay more taxes than to pay less taxes and be a social slave to the religious right.

Plus, rich liberals of today are in many cases the anti-war hippies (Steve Jobs, anybody?) from the '70s who have become sophisticated and educated but still realize that America policing the globe is a bad idea and thus vote against candidates who are for America policing the globe and running a global military empire.

Republicans in recent times necessarily come with social bludgeoning and international empire draped around their party necks. So there are many smart, rich people who simply will not vote for that. And heck, many smart, educated, non-rich people too.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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More right wing excuses. It had to be voter fraud, or hacking, or undue influence... it can't possibly have been because American voters actually preferred Barack Obama and his policies to Mitt Romney and his.

As long as Republicans continue to default to peevish and puerile excuses like these they have no hope of figuring out what they are actually doing wrong and get back in the game.
You can't fix a problem, if you aren't willing to admit you have a problem.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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None of what you posted changes the fact that seven out of ten of the highest median income counties in the United States had a majority that voted for President Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential elections.

Thanks for sharing!
Have you read the title of the thread?

[SIZE=1]Why do so many smart, rich people support the Democrats?[/SIZE]

So while you talk about Obama I'm talking about poltical parties.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Did you ever think (I know, thinking is probably a foreign concept to you) that maybe people vote for welfare and unemployment programs to make their COMMUNITIES better? I will never be poor and never have been, but I support social programs for the most part because they benefit me indirectly. I benefit from better schools even though I am done with school and have no kids because better schools mean better kids which means less crime and fewer teenaged mothers. I support planned parenthood because birth control benefits me by keeping the population down in the low-income segment. I support welfare (to an extent, I believe there needs to be restrictions and it needs to only be for housing, transportation and sustenance, not iPhones, Flat Screens and Xboxes) because without welfare a lot of those people would be on the streets or breaking into my condo to rob me.

You see how it works?

And this is coming from a person who has never voted for a Democrat. I'm a Libertarian through-and-through, but I prefer Democrats to Republicans (now, I was a GOP supporter when Bob Dole was the leader of the party) because of these opinions.
* Yep, there are always poor and needy everywhere, but it's good for personal "validation" and the ego to call them "slackers".
* Most people understand that A) most of the needy are not slackers B) many impoverished communities are victims of unstable business environments C) all of welfare "handouts" go back into the economy and the money is circulated D) Welfare is not the "gravy train" righties say it is. The "welfare queen" of Reagan was a boldfaced lie. E) it's morally wrong to throw human beings out into the street (sorry righties).
* Goldwater, Dole, Reagan, maybe Bush, would be considered flaming socialists in today's republican party. Bush, after an off-the-cuff remark that "slavery is a crime against humanity", incurred the wrath of conservative media. They evidently don't consider it as such - quite telling.
Libertarians share some beliefs with progressive democrats. Reminds me of an old video.
Jesse Ventura

I personally like Jesse Ventura, but the right seems to consider him a "clown".


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I look at this problem differently; I think welfare and handouts hurt more than they help. After decades of welfare and other assistance programs, we've done little to lessen the problems of poverty.--------------- I think they need to be greatly overhauled to reduce dependency on them, which would encourage more self-reliance and lead to greater personal success.
This certainly is the right-wing view - the poor really "don't want jobs", so cut them off for "tough love" and "learning self-sufficiency", while at the same time outsourcing their jobs to slave-wage countries. Get them off the "gravy train of welfare".
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There is a simple answer to this question.
Smart liberals think they know better how the "less fortunate" should live their lives. Therefore they think they deserve the right to tell them how to do so.
Rich liberals know that their wealth gets watered down if more people become wealthy and if the underclasses become self-sufficient. Therefore they do what they can to slow the movement from one economic stratum to another. Lock the poor and middle class into their strata, then get them dependent on government and the wealth of the rich is secure.... and their wealth then becomes POWER.
This is what it means to be liberal elite
Another Fox platitude, repeated yet again. You are describing the authoritarian right-wing mentality to a T.
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There is one thing I never did or will do. I never kiss anyone's ass nor will I pander to you.
Granted, you have the right to waste people's time, and you naturally reserve that right.

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Old 12-02-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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Default Why do so many smart, rich people support the Democrats?

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Well, then you are suspecting wrong. Did you happen to notice the article is speaking of Silicon Valley - not Hollywood/LA or Oakland? I happen to live in Silicon Valley, and most of the rich Democrats here are HIGHLY educated, gainfully employed (or retired), and work harder than most of the whiny RWNJs. There are very few "celebrities" around here, and the number of pro athletes is hardly enough to skew our percentages - and yet something like 70% of this region votes Dem. Why? I think the answer is in my first descriptor, highly educated.
If you stop and think about it, you can measure how highly educated they are by where they live. Silicon Valley is still in California, anyone who lives in that state can't have too many smarts or the state and many of the cities in that state wouldn't be going broke, or already broke. Show me one good reason for living in California, and I won't say another word.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If you stop and think about it, you can measure how highly educated they are by where they live. Silicon Valley is still in California, anyone who lives in that state can't have too many smarts or the state and many of the cities in that state wouldn't be going broke, or already broke. Show me one good reason for living in California, and I won't say another word.
Hmmmm... Mitt Romney lives in La Jolla.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Hmmmm... Mitt Romney lives in La Jolla.
That's his problem, and living there doesn't mean he is smart. At least he doesn't live in cess pool people refer to as the Bay Area.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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That's his problem, and living there doesn't mean he is smart.
Actually, if you reread your own previous post, you were essentially saying that it means he's an idiot.

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At least he doesn't live in cess pool people refer to as the Bay Area.
Get a grip.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: west mich
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That's his problem, and living there doesn't mean he is smart. At least he doesn't live in cess pool people refer to as the Bay Area.
Why so vague?
Your boy Hannity tags moderates as "intellectual cowards" when they don't explain what (he thinks) they "really" mean.
Of course we witness plenty more of this dodging by right-wing posters, so why don't you just spell it out and avoid this tag.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Are you bitter that you couldn't get into college?

Or do you consider your degree meaningless since you were taught by a bunch of fakes?
Oh chit or dear, are you saying that my profs from the early 50s were fakes? I guess so and we all thought they knew what they were saying.
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