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Old 11-29-2012, 03:08 AM
 
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Interesting read at Nate Silver's blog today.

In Silicon Valley, Technology Talent Gap Threatens G.O.P. Campaigns - NYTimes.com



Food for thought for you righties who continue to believe that only unemployed Obamaphone-receiving welfare mommas supported Obama.


Never thought that but tell me what is the percentage of Obama supporters as a whole that the IT guys make up?

.001%, if that?
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:53 AM
 
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Interesting read at Nate Silver's blog today.

In Silicon Valley, Technology Talent Gap Threatens G.O.P. Campaigns - NYTimes.com



Food for thought for you righties who continue to believe that only unemployed Obamaphone-receiving welfare mommas supported Obama.

It is safe to say that all human beings like to tell ourselves stories that are self serving when we fail.

So for conservatives to tell themselves self serving stories about why they lost the election is understandable.

Yet, the self serving stories they tell reveal the true ugly nature of much of conservative political thought.

Conservatism at its core is exclusionary, distrustful of democracy, accepting of gross inequality, and reactionary.

So for conservatives believing that only losers vote for Democrats is completely inline with their worldview.

They can't help themselves. Whenever you talk to a conservative about this nation, you understand that their standard view is to consider huge numbers of their fellow citizens as a danger to the continued existence of the nation.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:24 AM
 
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It is safe to say that all human beings like to tell ourselves stories that are self serving when we fail.

So for conservatives to tell themselves self serving stories about why they lost the election is understandable.

Yet, the self serving stories they tell reveal the true ugly nature of much of conservative political thought.

Conservatism at its core is exclusionary, distrustful of democracy, accepting of gross inequality, and reactionary.

So for conservatives believing that only losers vote for Democrats is completely inline with their worldview.

They can't help themselves. Whenever you talk to a conservative about this nation, you understand that their standard view is to consider huge numbers of their fellow citizens as a danger to the continued existence of the nation.
Or else conservatives are for freedom and individual responsiblity and liberals just can't come up with any intellectually honest compelling counterarguments so they demonize them instead.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:31 AM
 
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its been explained hundreds of times, too bad libby dim'o'craps have the attention span of a goldfish.

the democrat party is the party of wealth, they cater to the ignorant masses as the "party of the working man" for votes when in fact they have more million/billionaires than the republican party.

obama couldnt care less about poor people, they are strictly there for votes.

hes way more concerned about people w/$$.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:37 AM
 
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Or else conservatives are for freedom and individual responsiblity and liberals just can't come up with any intellectually honest compelling counterarguments so they demonize them instead.

Irrelevant blather that doesn't mean anything. Conservatives don't care about freedom, nor are they all that interested in individual reponsibilty.

No, what conservatives seem to care about in the public policy realm are lowering the taxes of the wealthy.

Keeping military spending high.

Demonizing millions of their fellow Americans as takers and moochers.

Moralizing about sex and abortion.

Being against gay marriage.

Demonizing immigrants
Demonizing muslims
Demonizing China
Worshipping a gun culture

Yes, those are compelling arguments.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:11 AM
 
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Irrelevant blather that doesn't mean anything. Conservatives don't care about freedom, nor are they all that interested in individual reponsibilty.

No, what conservatives seem to care about in the public policy realm are lowering the taxes of the wealthy.

Keeping military spending high.

Demonizing millions of their fellow Americans as takers and moochers.

Moralizing about sex and abortion.

Being against gay marriage.

Demonizing immigrants
Demonizing muslims
Demonizing China
Worshipping a gun culture

Yes, those are compelling arguments.
So you respond to my post saying liberals demonize conservatives instead of coming up with legitimate counterarguments by demonizing conservatives. Way to go.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:28 AM
 
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Oh this is rich. Support rigged supreme court decisions that basically call corporations people and allow unlimited tonnes of cash to be dumped into an election - then turn around and complain about crony capitalism. This stuff can't be made up.

D: "Let's play a tennis match on grass."

R: "No way, lib, I say we play it on clay."

D: "Uh okay."

<Dem wins 6-0, 6-0, 6-0>

R: Hey you sunofa....I wanna do over. You cheated. We play on grass, I say!"
This is where the self-delusion of democrats comes into play. A corporation made up of people can't do political contributions but a union made up of people can.

Citizens United simply leveled the playing field against the previous monopoly position of unions which overwhelming vote for democrats.

That makes you a hypocrite.

If you want to solve that issue write to your congress-critter and have them amend the constitution to ban both in participating. Simple as that.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:13 AM
 
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So you respond to my post saying liberals demonize conservatives instead of coming up with legitimate counterarguments by demonizing conservatives. Way to go.
I didn't demonize conservatives.

Conservatives do believe that a huge number of Americans are moochers and takers who are destroying the nation. This is an objective fact.

Conservatives do favor cutting taxes for the wealthy. This is an objective fact.

Conservatives have spent the last two years introducing more legislation to stop abortion and talking about birth control.

Conservatives do want to keep military spending extremely high. It is in their budgets and their talking points.

Conservatives have introduced draconian papers please immigration laws.


Conservatives did oppose a religious building being built on the basis that it was the wrong religion in the wrong location and that those people had to prove they weren't terrorists or associated with terrorists before they could exercise their constitutional rights, and they were pushing the government to deny those people their constitutional rights.

Conservatives do oppose gay marriage. And they push for legislation to put that belief into law.

Conservatives although this one is both political parties have demonized china.

Conservatives do worship gun culture and have introduced all sorts of concealed carry laws.

These are the actual policy positions of conservatives and this is the legislative agenda.

The conservative talking points about freedom or individual responsibility are completely irrelevant to their legislative agenda.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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Excellent summary of conservative policies and goals.

Restrict individual freedom and eliminate all restrictions on business, finance and banking.

Talk about supporting group think mentalities.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:23 AM
 
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So you're saying that all those software engineers pulling down six-figure salaries at Apple and Google are actually stupid?

OK then.
No, but they maynot be the most politically astute.
They maybe software design geniuses but maynot know a thing about economics and budgeting.

Doctors are notorious for being financially inept, does not mean they are stupid they just do not know about finance. They do not have time to learn about it either.
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