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1. If changing those two words from "bride and groom" to "spouse and spouse" causes mass chaos among straight people, I'd have to say we aren't the brightest bunch of people. Especially when you consider it actually makes things easier, since you wouldn't have to know which name goes where.
2. Homosexuals have parades for acceptance because they had to fight for acceptance in society. Simple concept, really, and I'm sure heterosexuals would do the same if they'd been treated unequally for as long as they gay community has/was. Heck, if you took away straight marriage rights tomorrow, you and I would probably BOTH be in line to parade/protest for justice. Well, at least I know I would.
3. Yes, marriage requires a license - that's kinda the whole point of why they want legal marriage, since you lose approx 1000 benefits & rights without that pesky certificate. If it weren't for that, I have a feeling this wouldn't be as important (but still somewhat) of an issue to the gay community.
4. You're right, there has been enough dividing; and it's time to STOP the divisiveness by offering equality to ALL.
So you agree the vote is ridiculous..? and the issue could be presented in a way which inspires unity..? ( save the extreme .5 %...because thats my thinking and the whole blame is on government 100%
So you agree the vote is ridiculous..? and the issue could be presented in a way which inspires unity..? ( save the extreme .5 %
What vote? If you're referring to voting gay marriage legal, no I don't think it's ridiculous at all... since we've yet to come up with a mutually agreeable alternative (separate but equal doesn't count), it seems the only way to ensure equality right now. If you have a better plan, please let us know!
(I assume your plan would be changing ALL marriage to civil unions, but we've already heard opposition from the straight community over that one.)
Well I don't think what is going on is working out at all. Plus don't forget while the gay movement suggests its fighting for acceptance in society as you mentioned, the activity is also a suggestive as an influence in of itself in stemming anti-unity tones and other, regardless. Thats the problem and I will maintain an opinion that the word gay...has no business in a healthy youngsters life and should be outlawed from any emphasis in education, otherwise what is the intended nature of the business..? Parades would also be futile and serve no purpose if a nation-wide "Gay Marriage was fully legal, what for, acceptance is granted with a nation wide legal Gay Marriage..Parades celebrate a theme, if acceptance is achieved the only remaining theme possible is a parade which stimulates human flourish toward unity in a traditional tone, which creates a harmonious applaud unanimously for it...Therefore the gay Parade is illogical without the acceptance motive and cannot achieve a progressive end product toward collective unity...The chance at acceptance in an approach similar to this would have a better chance at cooling the momentum to encourage a workable deal.
Leaving out the loudness and damaging anti-unity influence for it to youngsters, example in my opinion is huge. By and large I think its enough to grow up in this world, let alone seeing the adults play tug a-war with matters which interfere with their already naturally inclined and an adult war zone...all they will do, and we see this in schools is play mimic to the adult world they see, youngsters always follow the lead, always have and always will......anyway, thats my 2 cents worth for now, whats in place needs to be changed , no doubt about it and think gov is to blame for crumby leadership in a full washing of the hands with zero to add and saying ...hey go ahead and vote, knowing full well its going to inflame society.
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Marriage is being reduced to a meaningless, empty, function devoid of value that was once treasured and considered something special by society only to have everything that it once represented modified and redefined away just to accommodate a militant 3% of the population for whom the unification of the two sexes was never intended or able to accommodate anyway.
By the same token, if a gay couple needs the word "marriage" on their government application in order to feel legitimate, is it not likely that their union is doomed?
That's not the same at all. We're talking about equality. I don't care if government-recognized unions are called marriages or civil unions. They just need to be called the same thing, regardless of whether they are opposite-sex unions or same-sex unions.
If an anti-gay person needs the words "husband" and "wife" on a government application for marriage in order to feel legitimate, I'd say your marriage is doomed.
So what if a couple (a straight couple) want to keep the words husband and wife?
Are the gays that insecure and jealous that they want everyone punished...Just like spoiled children would demand..."Then no one can have it!!!..Booo Hoo Hoo"
Most people simply ignore gay couples...They live and let live..But aparently the insecurity of many gays with themselves won't allow that for straight couples.
This nonsense people are posting here about words evolving over time....A naturally pregnant gay couple has not evolved over any time at all, has it?
Maybe it's about time to evolve another description of them...How about that?
So what if a couple (a straight couple) want to keep the words husband and wife?
Are the gays that insecure and jealous that they want everyone punished...Just like spoiled children would demand..."Then no one can have it!!!..Booo Hoo Hoo"
Most people simply ignore gay couples...They live and let live..But aparently the insecurity of many gays with themselves won't allow that for straight couples.
This nonsense people are posting here about words evolving over time....A naturally pregnant gay couple has not evolved over any time at all, has it?
Maybe it's about time to evolve another description of them...How about that?
Your sour grapes aren't going to change the definition of marriage in the states where same-sex marriages are recognized. Babble on.
So what if a couple (a straight couple) want to keep the words husband and wife?
Are the gays that insecure and jealous that they want everyone punished...Just like spoiled children would demand..."Then no one can have it!!!..Booo Hoo Hoo"
Most people simply ignore gay couples...They live and let live..But aparently the insecurity of many gays with themselves won't allow that for straight couples.
This nonsense people are posting here about words evolving over time....A naturally pregnant gay couple has not evolved over any time at all, has it?
Maybe it's about time to evolve another description of them...How about that?
They could (and would) still be husband and wife, so I'm not really sure what you're rambling about here. It's just a form, not a permanent designation.
Marriage is being reduced to a meaningless, empty, function devoid of value that was once treasured and considered something special by society only to have everything that it once represented modified and redefined away just to accommodate a militant 3% of the population for whom the unification of the two sexes was never intended or able to accommodate anyway.
Minorities still have rights in this country, ya know... my people (the Jews) only make up 2% of the population, so would it be fair to take our equal status too? I mean, who cares about a measly 2% when it comes to freedom and equality? I think we should also stop appeasing disabled folks with ADA regulations, since they're not a huge percentage of the population either. Whiny minorities!!
Time for a quote: "It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
Furthermore, if your marriage is a "meaningless, empty function devoid of value" simply because some gay couples are also married, it probably wasn't the best marriage anyway. And it's not like straight people are doing it justice, with the current divorce rate being something like 60%. Not to mention the number of quickie weddings (a la Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian), shotgun weddings, "trophy wives," gold-diggers, green card marriages, etc, etc. Sorry to break the news, but marriage hasn't been that sacred or meaningful since WAY before gays decided to join the party. I bet they'll do a better job of it too, given that shotgun weddings are impossible - and given how long many of them have been waiting, with the same partner no less, it's much more likely to last.
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Oh Please!..It's just jealousy and bitterness
