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Old 11-28-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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DC Takes Top Honors -- for Worst Graduation Rate in U.S. | CNS News

Which places spent most per student on education? – Schools of Thought - CNN.com Blogs

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Washington, D.C., schools topped per-pupil spending at $18,667; Utah was lowest, at $6,064. Public schools systems spent $602.6 billion in 2010, a 0.4% decrease since 2009 - the first time the spending level has gone down since the Census Bureau began to keep track.

The numbers speak for themselves. No commentary really needed, so for once I will shut up.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:33 PM
 
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Education starts at home. Unfortunately, the home is broken, dad is nowhere to be found, and kids are running around reveling in truancy and graduation is nowhere in sight.

Thankfully, gentrification of Washington DC is taking hold at a pretty rapid rate. Eventually this will mean that the dregs of society will be forced out and off the Gigantic Public Tit™ that exists in DC.

If DC would stop subsidizing the terrible life decisions of its revolving-door-loser-citizens, the nation's capitol could return to something resembling integrity and liveability.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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That's what always happens with liberal programs. Look at the war on poverty: going on 50 years later, hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars spent and the poverty rate is essentially unchanged. It more about intent than producing results with leftists.

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Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Except when adjusted for regional cost...

D.C. is 13th, no excuse for an abysmal graduation rate but those are the facts as they are.


Vermont, Wyoming, New Jersey, New York, and Maine (in descending order).

Best and Worst States: Does Spending More on Education Work? State Rankings of Education Spending.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Per pupil spending here on Long Island is a little under $21k per student, and LI is regarded as having among the best schools of any region in the country.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That's what always happens with liberal programs. Look at the war on poverty: going on 50 years later, hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars spent and the poverty rate is essentially unchanged. It more about intent than producing results with leftists.
Poverty will never go away, it has always been apart of society long before this country was ever formed. The only question is, how is a nation going to deal with it's own poverty?
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:20 PM
 
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Does it ever breakdown where the money is spent on among the different regions compared? It would be no surprise if a large amount of money is consumed by paychecks and bureaucracy.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:34 PM
 
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Education starts at home.
That's a very big factor but it's not all of it. There is excellent report from CATO:


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Money And School Performance: Lessons from the Kansas City Desegregation Experiment

For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.


Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.
The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.



The Kansas City experiment suggests that, indeed, educational problems can't be solved by throwing money at them, that the structural problems of our current educational system are far more important than a lack of material resources, and that the focus on desegregation diverted attention from the real problem, low achievement.
Even though those kids had poor home environments you would expect some positives in this, there was none.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:40 PM
 
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Per pupil spending here on Long Island is a little under $21k per student, and LI is regarded as having among the best schools of any region in the country.
There was small Catholic school near where I live that had a 99.9% graduation rate and something like a 92% graduation rate for Colleges and Universities and these kids were going on to some of the best schools in the nation. If i recall the tutiton was like $7K... I couldn't imagine what they would do with $21K. Unfortunately they had to close because of lack of students.

Funding is important however that is not going to make difference if you do not have dedicated good teachers, proper management and help from the parents.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:46 PM
 
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The grab and go education has on the economy is one of the biggest cover-up rip offs around . Great education has nothing to do with money and never did. Both candidates emphasized more spending because both, don't have a clue as to what they are talking about and should give it up on this issue. The whole thing needs to be rebuilt just like most things starting with a big clean out and some new town rules.
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