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So apparently we are punishing teachers who are supportive of anti-hate, anti-stereotype, anti-bullying messages. Yeah, that makes sense!
I know socialist liberals disagree but school shouldn't be a place to indoctrinate students with pro-gay or pro-Obama propaganda.
Teachers should do what they're paid to do- teach our children reading, writing, maths, literature, geography, et al.
Teachers for the most part should keep their political soapboxing to themselves unless it's a Civics class (and even at that they need to keep an open mind to different opinions).
Teachers for the most part should keep their political soapboxing to themselves unless it's a Civics class (and even at that they need to keep an open mind to different opinions).
#1. A student requested the song be played, not the teacher.
#2 . In this case it's a performing arts class. How does one teach performing arts without exposing students to the fact it is considered a safe haven for free expression?
So you're for more regulation then? A teacher with a college degree is incapable of deciding what is appropriate for her students and requires additional oversight?
The regulation is already in place, it's not additional. She has a curriculum and procedures to follow. Maybe she should be putting that college degree to good use ang lobbying to get those types of songs included in the curriculum, If it's good for just her students then it should be good for the whole school district shouldn't it?
It isn't on the surface an offensive song/rap; I wouldn't ban my own child from listening to it. However, what is appropriate for someone else's child to listen to in a public classroom setting has a different set of standards than what is appropriate for my own child to listen to in the privacy of my home. There was mild foul language in the song - a big, huge non-no in a public middle school. There is mild questioning of Christianity that could be construed as "bashing" by some - again, a big, huge no-no in public schools (no matter what religion). And, of course, there is the whole subject matter controversy.
That said, I am surprised this got her suspended without pay unless 1) this is a pattern of hers or 2) the school district has specific requirements for the playing of music and videos in classes, which most likely includes prior principal approval. My guess is that it is the latter, most districts do have such a policy now because of just this type of song/possible controversy.
It isn't on the surface an offensive song/rap; I wouldn't ban my own child from listening to it. However, what is appropriate for someone else's child to listen to in a public classroom setting has a different set of standards than what is appropriate for my own child to listen to in the privacy of my home. There was mild foul language in the song - a big, huge non-no in a public middle school. There is mild questioning of Christianity that could be construed as "bashing" by some - again, a big, huge no-no in public schools (no matter what religion). And, of course, there is the whole subject matter controversy.
I am surprised this got her suspended without pay unless 1) this is a pattern of hers or 2) the school district has specific requirements for the playing of music and videos in classes, which most likely includes prior principal approval. My guess is that it is the latter, most districts do have such a policy now because of just this type of song/possible controversy.
In my kids schools for the last 20 years, everytime a teacher has wanted to show a film or some other form of media that was not in the approved curriculum an approval letter went home outlining the content. Those kids that didnt get their parents approval signature went to study hall when it was shown.
And get this they go to private schools that actually have more freedom in these types of situations than public schools. However the teachers and administrators have always RESPECTED parents rights to approve these types of deviations of the curriculum.
In my kids schools for the last 20 years, everytime a teacher has wanted to show a film or some other form of media that was not in the approved curriculum an approval letter went home outlining the content. Those kids that didnt get their parents approval signature went to study hall when it was shown.
In the last two schools systems I worked for too.
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Originally Posted by Bulldogdad
And get this they go to private schools that actually have more freedom in these types of situations than public schools. However the teachers and administrators have always RESPECTED parents rights to approve these types of deviations of the curriculum.
So should public schools. Ultimately parents should have the right and responsibility to decide what is appropriate for their child.
It's a performing arts class, and playing the song was requested by a student. The teacher verified the song did not contain any violence or profanity. Are students not allowed to express feelings of love, respect and tolerance?
You really don't understand how the public school system works. You can get suspended for taking an asprin or having a plastic knife in your lunch etc etc etc.
If rigid administrative control over ANYTHING that might be deemed offensive to anybody is news to you then you haven't been paying attention.
Did you hear about the teacher that got suspended for showing a pro-life video in a class about "activism"?
It might be a performing arts class but the song was really a social and political statement, they weren't listening to it because they wanted to study the chord structure.
Ha. Look at the gay-haters, outraged as usual. I take pleasure knowing that you people are only going to become more and more frustrated and angry as the years go on - unless you can somehow open up your narrow minds and accept people who aren't like you.
So apparently we are punishing teachers who are supportive of anti-hate, anti-stereotype, anti-bullying messages. Yeah, that makes sense!
And this is why I don't discuss the issue of gay marriage or gay rights in any of my classes, even if it's sometimes relevant to current events (I'm a government teacher, where we discuss a lot of current issues) In my conservative town, that's one issue I don't touch with a ten foot pole.
Ha. Look at the gay-haters, outraged as usual. I take pleasure knowing that you people are only going to become more and more frustrated and angry as the years go on - unless you can somehow open up your narrow minds and accept people who aren't like you.
Now, now. It's not that they HATE gay people. They just don't think they should have rights or be treated with any respect whatsoever. Two completely different things, of course!
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