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Old 11-30-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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And?

They have phones and internet and everything in Hawaii.

How many of the Congress-critters do you think are going to still be in Washington over the Christmas/New Year's break?
Indeed - and the fact is the budget is THEIR responsibility, NOT Obama's. The President can facilitate and help move the process along with suggested budget of his own, but in the final analysis CONGRESS creates the budget - NOT the President.

Ken
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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Have you forgotten that Hawaii is Obama's home state, and it is where his family lives?

Have you forgotten that nearly everyone in the U.S. takes vacation time and visits family during the holidays, including our government officials?
I certainly didn't forget that this man made a promise to the american people in the debates that the middle class would not see a tax increase. Yet we will definitely get a huge increase if America goes over the fiscal cliff.

If Obama really cared about the American people, he would put off his vacation and burn the midnight oil to stop the crisis.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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According to liberal/socialists in this country, conservatives are "out of touch" with the common person. Obama campaigned on a "people first" platform. The "everyday working Joe." "What is better for them." "I know. I am for the people."

How many people in the United States can and, moreover, will afford a Christmas vacation in Hawaii? How close is Obama to the family in Michigan or Pennsylvania, buried in 10 feet of snow, at zero degrees or lower, while Obama is sunning himself on a beach?

Obama is no "common man." He is just as filthy rich as Romney and all the other 1% the liberals complain about. He is going to be on a beach, not just a beach, but a beach shut down for HIM and his FAMILY ONLY. He will have a private beach, for his using. How many of you have gone to Hawaii and had your own private beach?

Wow. Bush went to Crawford, Texas. Let me see here, Crawford Texas VS Hawaii? What is the perception of how the "common man" can afford this vacation? After all, the democrats represent the common man, right?

Please, Obama is no "common man" and has no clue how the other 99% of us live, anymore then Romney does. He has and will continue to live the life of privledge, 99.5% of us will never see and/or experience.
Let me ask you this: do you believe that everyone who lives in Hawaii is "uncommon?"
Do you not think that people are born, live and die there - in other words, spend their entire lives there?

And WTH does living in Michigan or Pennsylvania have to do with anything? Don't like "ten feet of snow?" Move.

People also live in Florida and California. They have beaches there too. Even have beaches in North Carolina!
And I'll bet some of those folks will be on the beach on Christmas too.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I certainly didn't forget that this man made a promise to the american people in the debates that the middle class would not see a tax increase. Yet we will definitely get a huge increase if America goes over the fiscal cliff.

If Obama really cared about the American people, he would put off his vacation and burn the midnight oil to stop the crisis.
And yet you seem to have forgotten that CONGRESS creates the budget - NOT the President.
IS Congress going to be there over Christmas?

Ken
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Indeed - and the fact is the budget is THEIR responsibility, NOT Obama's. The President can facilitate and help move the process along with suggested budget of his own, but in the final analysis CONGRESS creates the budget - NOT the President.

Ken
which is basically why people need to pay more attention to the other elections as well. I think some people missed that whole lesson of Bill from Capitol Hill.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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And yet you seem to have forgotten that CONGRESS creates the budget - NOT the President.
IS Congress going to be there over Christmas?

Ken
Its about his concern & dedication to the people who elected him.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:06 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Its about his concern & dedication to the people who elected him.
No it isn't
It's about you wingnuts trying to stir up trouble and provide cover for your clowns in Congress who AREN'T DOING THEIR JOB.

He has PLENTY of concern - THAT'S why he going around the country firing up voters to express their displeasure about Congress' INACTION on the subject.

Obama Warns of Prolonged Talks as Republicans Rebuff Plan - Bloomberg

Ken
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:33 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Was the country about to go over a fiscal cliff when Bush took his vacation? Was the country close to having to discuss the debt crisis?

Bush addressed the issues that needed to be addressed before taking a vacation. He didn't skip off like a little boy, giving his finger to people who wouldn't play by his rules, and say **** it. And that is exactly what Obama is doing.

Obama should be addressing the issues of this country. Oh, wait. He's the president and he won't be getting another term - not to worry, just make the best of the taxpayers money while he can.
LOL! The old "that's different" argument.

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Am I the only conservative that is getting tired of other right-wingers just plain bashing the president? Give it a rest already! Obama is from Hawaii, is it his fault that he's not from ****ing Maine? Would liberals start to bash me if I was elected president and I decided to spent the holidays in my Caribbean hometown?
Apparently.

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Prioritizes vacation over a national disaster. Is that something he had control over? What would he have done - make an appearance like Obama? What exactly did Obama do regarding Sandy other than give lip service and make an appearance. It was nothing more than Obama campaigning. On vacation while Israel/Palestinian doing what they usually do? Is that something he had control over?

I asked if there was a pending fiscal cliff and discussion on the national debt. Something that has a huge impact on the COUNTRY and something that would require his presence to find solutions to fix the ECONOMY.
Again, the failed "that's different" argument.

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Have you forgotten that Hawaii is Obama's home state, and it is where his family lives?

Have you forgotten that nearly everyone in the U.S. takes vacation time and visits family during the holidays, including our government officials?
Has been said before but, including Congress.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:27 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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I certainly didn't forget that this man made a promise to the american people in the debates that the middle class would not see a tax increase. Yet we will definitely get a huge increase if America goes over the fiscal cliff.

If Obama really cared about the American people, he would put off his vacation and burn the midnight oil to stop the crisis.


the only oil the potus will burn is calories playing >>>
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Let me ask you this: do you believe that everyone who lives in Hawaii is "uncommon?"
Do you not think that people are born, live and die there - in other words, spend their entire lives there?

And WTH does living in Michigan or Pennsylvania have to do with anything? Don't like "ten feet of snow?" Move.

People also live in Florida and California. They have beaches there too. Even have beaches in North Carolina!
And I'll bet some of those folks will be on the beach on Christmas too.
Oh please. This is the lamest arguement going. If you want to defend Obama, defend him, however this isn't the way.

If Obama was taking his family on vacation to North Carolina to see "the beaches," no one would complain. Its Hawaii. NOT NC or California. When people think of Hawaii, they think of sun, fun, etc. You don't think of fun "OMG!!! Were going to NC!!!" Sorry, it doesn't register that way and it doesn't work that way.

Obama is a ruling elite class, you liberal/socialists complain about. But he is your "god," so you will defend him to the ends of the earth. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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