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Old 12-03-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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You both seem to miss the point.......why should it cost this much??? You do know it's "CHARGED" with interest from China
Air Force One and Secret Service detail cost lots and lots of money. You don't actually think the majority of the $4 million goes to parties, champagne, and 5 star room accommodations do you?
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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Ridiculous. Even if he did cancel his trip to stay home there wouldn't be anything he could do about the fiscal cliff with Congress on vacation, and you'd just find some other trivial thing he did wrong to complain about anyway.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He didn't exactly claim these...
I knew that. Perhaps you should drop Bily Lovec a PM and let him know too.

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..... these are the things he slammed President Bush for and now he continues down the same road. He lied to the middle-class and some still drink his fine whine..........
Okay... link please. Exactly where did Obama ever "slam" President Bush for taking a vacation? A single example would suffice.

Again, I'll wait.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:59 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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OMG we have to pay for the POTUS security?!?!?!
Well, that and his vacation.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Well, that and his vacation.
No. Actually he pays for that.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Family of Barack Obama:

Family of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



So, if not Obama's home state of Hawaii, where EXACTLY should Obama go to spend time with his half-sister and her family during the holidays?
How about this? IF he is going to visit his family, meaning his half sister and their family, why can't they fly to Washington DC and spend the holidays at say Camp David?

I'll tell you why: ITS HAWAII STUPID!!! See. Washington will be cold, wet, rainy, and/or snowy. Who in the hell wants to spend Christmas Vacation in Washington, when they can spend it in sunny Hawaii, on their OWN PRIVATE BEACH? Best yet, all they have too pay for is the rooms. NOTHING ELSE.

Hell, if someone said to me: Go to Hawaii for Christmas. All you have to pay for is the room and the tax payers of this country will pay for the rest, I'd be all over it and so would everyone else. However, MOST can't afford it. Yet, Obama says how is the "common man." Here for the "common folk." HE ISN'T. He has NEVER worked an honest day in his life.

Obama has no clue what its like living pay check to pay check. How to come up with enough money to pay for their kids braces, clothing, school books, etc. Yet he, and all you other liberal/socialists, complain conservatives are rich and "not in touch." Not in touch IS Obama.

If he was so in touch with the general population and their suffering, he would have his family come to Washington, which would cost MUCH LESS, to the TAXPAYERS, then him taking his whole family to Hawaii. However:

Hawaii or Washington DC during December. Its a no brainer.

And remember, when you are sitting home on December 25th, eating your turkey and a large segment of this population, a population Obummer says are "his people," are freezing their butts off: Obummer will be sitting in the sun, on a private beach, eating filet mignon and lobster. Drinking the best champagne. The rest of us will be lucky to have a turkey and a bottle of Ripple.

But oh yeah, Obummer is for the "common folk." And before all you liberals say: What should he do? How about taking all that 4 million dollars this little vacation will cost us and find 100 families across the United States. Use that money to save their houses from foreclosure. How about that?

But nope, his wife's tan lines are more important then us "common folk."
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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How about this? IF he is going to visit his family, meaning his half sister and their family, why can't they fly to Washington DC and spend the holidays at say Camp David?

I'll tell you why: ITS HAWAII STUPID!!! See. Washington will be cold, wet, rainy, and/or snowy. Who in the hell wants to spend Christmas Vacation in Washington, when they can spend it in sunny Hawaii, on their OWN PRIVATE BEACH? Best yet, all they have too pay for is the rooms. NOTHING ELSE.

Hell, if someone said to me: Go to Hawaii for Christmas. All you have to pay for is the room and the tax payers of this country will pay for the rest, I'd be all over it and so would everyone else. However, MOST can't afford it. Yet, Obama says how is the "common man." Here for the "common folk." HE ISN'T. He has NEVER worked an honest day in his life.

Obama has no clue what its like living pay check to pay check. How to come up with enough money to pay for their kids braces, clothing, school books, etc. Yet he, and all you other liberal/socialists, complain conservatives are rich and "not in touch." Not in touch IS Obama.

If he was so in touch with the general population and their suffering, he would have his family come to Washington, which would cost MUCH LESS, to the TAXPAYERS, then him taking his whole family to Hawaii. However:

Hawaii or Washington DC during December. Its a no brainer.

And remember, when you are sitting home on December 25th, eating your turkey and a large segment of this population, a population Obummer says are "his people," are freezing their butts off: Obummer will be sitting in the sun, on a private beach, eating filet mignon and lobster. Drinking the best champagne. The rest of us will be lucky to have a turkey and a bottle of Ripple.

But oh yeah, Obummer is for the "common folk." And before all you liberals say: What should he do? How about taking all that 4 million dollars this little vacation will cost us and find 100 families across the United States. Use that money to save their houses from foreclosure. How about that?

But nope, his wife's tan lines are more important then us "common folk."
You really are pretty funny when you whine....but your punch line is priceless.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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How about this? IF he is going to visit his family, meaning his half sister and their family, why can't they fly to Washington DC and spend the holidays at say Camp David?

I'll tell you why: ITS HAWAII STUPID!!! See. Washington will be cold, wet, rainy, and/or snowy. Who in the hell wants to spend Christmas Vacation in Washington, when they can spend it in sunny Hawaii, on their OWN PRIVATE BEACH? Best yet, all they have too pay for is the rooms. NOTHING ELSE.

Hell, if someone said to me: Go to Hawaii for Christmas. All you have to pay for is the room and the tax payers of this country will pay for the rest, I'd be all over it and so would everyone else. However, MOST can't afford it. Yet, Obama says how is the "common man." Here for the "common folk." HE ISN'T. He has NEVER worked an honest day in his life.

Obama has no clue what its like living pay check to pay check. How to come up with enough money to pay for their kids braces, clothing, school books, etc. Yet he, and all you other liberal/socialists, complain conservatives are rich and "not in touch." Not in touch IS Obama.

If he was so in touch with the general population and their suffering, he would have his family come to Washington, which would cost MUCH LESS, to the TAXPAYERS, then him taking his whole family to Hawaii. However:

Hawaii or Washington DC during December. Its a no brainer.

And remember, when you are sitting home on December 25th, eating your turkey and a large segment of this population, a population Obummer says are "his people," are freezing their butts off: Obummer will be sitting in the sun, on a private beach, eating filet mignon and lobster. Drinking the best champagne. The rest of us will be lucky to have a turkey and a bottle of Ripple.

But oh yeah, Obummer is for the "common folk." And before all you liberals say: What should he do? How about taking all that 4 million dollars this little vacation will cost us and find 100 families across the United States. Use that money to save their houses from foreclosure. How about that?

But nope, his wife's tan lines are more important then us "common folk."
Again - WHAT DOES HAWAII HAVE TO DO WITH IT?
Between 5 and 10 MILLION people visit Hawaii EVERY SINGLE YEAR - and not just RICH people either - middle-class folks (ie you know? the "common folk"?) flock to Hawaii every year. I've been there myself several times (and some even more exotic locations). Heck some 1.4 MILLION Americans LIVE THERE (including those who work at McDonalds and live VERY MODESTLY).
The fact that YOU have never been to Hawaii doesn't mean MILLIONS of other Americans don't go, so there's NO reason the President shouldn't. That argument is just plain silly and just makes you sound jealous and dumb.

It's Hawaii - soooooooo whatttttttt?

Geeze!!!!!

Ken.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You both seem to miss the point.......why should it cost this much??? You do know it's "CHARGED" with interest from China
First of all, we don't really know what it costs. This paper is at best making ass*umptions about the cost of the security, etc.

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Air Force One and Secret Service detail cost lots and lots of money. You don't actually think the majority of the $4 million goes to parties, champagne, and 5 star room accommodations do you?
Yes, I think she does.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How about this? IF he is going to visit his family, meaning his half sister and their family, why can't they fly to Washington DC and spend the holidays at say Camp David?

I'll tell you why: ITS HAWAII STUPID!!! See. Washington will be cold, wet, rainy, and/or snowy. Who in the hell wants to spend Christmas Vacation in Washington, when they can spend it in sunny Hawaii, on their OWN PRIVATE BEACH? Best yet, all they have too pay for is the rooms. NOTHING ELSE.

Hell, if someone said to me: Go to Hawaii for Christmas. All you have to pay for is the room and the tax payers of this country will pay for the rest, I'd be all over it and so would everyone else. However, MOST can't afford it. Yet, Obama says how is the "common man." Here for the "common folk." HE ISN'T. He has NEVER worked an honest day in his life.

Obama has no clue what its like living pay check to pay check. How to come up with enough money to pay for their kids braces, clothing, school books, etc. Yet he, and all you other liberal/socialists, complain conservatives are rich and "not in touch." Not in touch IS Obama.

If he was so in touch with the general population and their suffering, he would have his family come to Washington, which would cost MUCH LESS, to the TAXPAYERS, then him taking his whole family to Hawaii. However:

Hawaii or Washington DC during December. Its a no brainer.

And remember, when you are sitting home on December 25th, eating your turkey and a large segment of this population, a population Obummer says are "his people," are freezing their butts off: Obummer will be sitting in the sun, on a private beach, eating filet mignon and lobster. Drinking the best champagne. The rest of us will be lucky to have a turkey and a bottle of Ripple.

But oh yeah, Obummer is for the "common folk." And before all you liberals say: What should he do? How about taking all that 4 million dollars this little vacation will cost us and find 100 families across the United States. Use that money to save their houses from foreclosure. How about that?

But nope, his wife's tan lines are more important then us "common folk."
I agree with Wayland, your last line is a hoot. In re: the bold, it has been pointed out by MANY that most of these costs would be incurred no matter what. The SS has to be paid, no matter what. The security has to be in place, no matter what. So your little plan would cost the US treasury at least $3 million dollars.

"Simple, elegant, and absolutely wrong"
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