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Old 11-29-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Completely untrue. It's been categorically, indisputably established by inarguable scientific methods that the number-one most favorite liberal activity is fantasizing about having sex with Jane Fonda. The second is plotting the ruin of our young by means of secular-humanist mind control. Spending other people's money only comes a weak third.

OK. I stand corrected.

 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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lol, GOOD then Obama doesn't need to raise taxes.
Debt ≠ deficit.

If you want to balance the budget in a reasonable manner, taxes will need to be increased.

If you want to let the deficit spiral out of control, taxes will not need to be increased.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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So you would rather keep the unemployment extensions, food stamps until 10 years from now we could return to the McMansion economy that was a model of economic brilliance that had plenty of private sector participation? Spending on infrastructure is the last thing I would complain about. Maybe we could do a several trillion dollar nation building exercise in Iran by then too. There is always money for that.
I support spending on infrastructure that will benefit the most Americans.... expand our freeway system as that's what most of us need and want. Wasting money on high speed rail just enriches the buddies of our big government politicians.

And you can keep your trillion dollar nation building exercise in Iran. I certainly don't need it.

And by the way, tell your guy Obama to stop spending $170 billion per year on his wars... that would fund a lot of new freeways.

Also, McMansions are wonderful. Maybe someday you can afford one.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Well? How much will they cost?
Trillions of dollars... but it's other people's money so it's OK.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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Do you have some sort of time machine or something? I can't at all tell you should you have built it, but I can tell you building it now would be futile.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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Trillions of dollars... but it's other people's money so it's OK.
Don't we use "other people's money" for roads, schools, air transportation, bus systems, social security, etc and so on and so forth?
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Debt ≠ deficit.

If you want to balance the budget in a reasonable manner, taxes will need to be increased.

If you want to let the deficit spiral out of control, taxes will not need to be increased.

Or you can just reduce spending. There is no need to increase taxes on anybody. Government spending has grown from 7% of GDP to almost 45% of GDP over the past 100 years. It's time to reduce it drastically.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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How is it going to be paid for?No way we need more debt and continuing expense for the next few deacdes at least.
With electronic numbers. The only issue is inflation. However if you add supply there is no inflation. If it saves fuel and lowers oil imports and Japanese cars, it adds supply. If you print 100k and build 100k worth of supply, no inflation. When will you wake up and realize that all the inflation is because we kept bidding up the price of real estate which did not add a teaspoon of dirt. Lots of money with little supply that is except for some empty mansions in exurbia.

Now if its a white elephant and will not add to supply then its an inflation problem, but what are the real numbers including the rise in real estate prices? We keep printing money without making anything. When will it end?

The housing bubble that included bidding up land prices added 27 trillion dollars and debt that spewed into the economy. Why am I the only one that thinks printing money trading dirt is inflationary ? Twice the national debt at that time for dirt swaps.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Don't we use "other people's money" for roads, schools, air transportation, bus systems, social security, etc and so on and so forth?
Maybe, but not like rail. SS is contributory and paid for by those that participate. Roads are mostly paid for by gas taxes. Schools are paid for by property taxes.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just make the rich pay for it. They make too much money anyway and it would only be fair that they paid for it right ?
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