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Old 07-08-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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Why?

Marriage is not mentioned in the constitution.

The Constitution is not a laundry list of rights.

In fact, many of the founders were loathe to even have a "Bill of Rights" because they knew that someday in the future, someone like you would come along and think, "If it aint in der Constitooshun, it aint a right!"

 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Why?

Marriage is not mentioned in the constitution.
But equal rights are and have been applied to marriage. Lots of things you take for granted aren't explicit in the Constitution, yet you'd throw a fit if we applied your logic to them.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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If you can't take the heat... stay out of the soup.
EXACTLY!!!!! Same advice I'd give you regarding homosexuals and how obviously upset their life style makes you.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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The homosexual community has no wish to destroy families at all. In fact, they wish to have families, and their struggle to have their families recognized legally is what these court cases are about. They are pro-family.

They aren't working to force "normalcy", or to force anything. They simply expect to be able to live their lives honestly and openly, both things we should all aspire to.

You can safely continue to feel the way you do about homosexuality. You won't be forced to do anything. And thankfully, you won't be able to force your viewpoints on the rest of us.
No homo-sexual couple can create a family between them unless they hire a surrogate, IVF, or adopt.

The last story i heard of adoption. Was 2 men that adopted a young boy, and used him as a sex toy, repeatedly.....

The homo-sexual choice of some, is based in sensualism, and perversion. To normalize it, creates confusion in young people, which are now questioning whether they are a boy or a girl.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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No homo-sexual couple can create a family between them unless they hire a surrogate, IVF, or adopt.

The last story i heard of adoption. Was 2 men that adopted a young boy, and used him as a sex toy, repeatedly.....

The homo-sexual choice of some, is based in sensualism, and perversion. To normalize it, creates confusion in young people, which are now questioning whether they are a boy or a girl.
That's the only story that sticks in your mind due to your agenda. You conveniently ignore the stories of heteros sexually abusing their children as well as the gays who adopt and don't.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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CHICAGO - The nation's most influential pediatrician's group says gays should be allowed to marry to help ensure the health and well-being of their children.
The American Academy of Pediatrics' new policy, published online Thursday, cites research showing that the parents' sexual orientation has no effect on a child's development. Kids fare just as well in gay or straight families when they are nurturing and financially and emotionally stable, the academy says.
Academy of Pediatrics backs gay marriage; says kids raised in such families do just as well
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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No homo-sexual couple can create a family between them unless they hire a surrogate, IVF, or adopt.

The last story i heard of adoption. Was 2 men that adopted a young boy, and used him as a sex toy, repeatedly.....

The homo-sexual choice of some, is based in sensualism, and perversion. To normalize it, creates confusion in young people, which are now questioning whether they are a boy or a girl.
Lots of heterosexual couples create families via surragacy, IVF, and adoption. And lots of heterosexual couples create families when either or both have children from previous relationships. How a family is created is not the issue. The family merits recognition based on simply being a family.

Pedophilia is not homosexuality.

Sexuality often goes hand in hand with sensualism. Sensualism enhances sexual experiences. You may consider homosexuality perversion, I don't. It's just a sexual preference that falls within the range of human sexuality. As a sexual preference, it's rare and not the norm. No one is trying to make it the norm. And efforts to make young people TOLERANT of things that are not the norm do not create confusion. Will people, and not just young people, experiment? Yes. But unless you fear that homosexuality is such great sex that we are all latent homosexuals, and experimentation will make homosexuality the norm, then you have nothing to fear.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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Research to date has reached an unequivocal conclusion about gay parenting: the children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as successfully as the children of heterosexual parents. In fact, not a single study has found the children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged because of their parents’ sexual orientation. Other key findings include:

There is no evidence to suggest that lesbians and gay men are unfit to be parents. Home environments with lesbian and gay parents are as likely to successfully support a child’s development as those with heterosexual parents.

Good parenting is not influenced by sexual orientation. Rather, it is influenced most profoundly by a parent’s ability to create a loving and nurturing home -- an ability that does not depend on whether a parent is gay or straight.

There is no evidence to suggest that the children of lesbian and gay parents are less intelligent, suffer from more problems, are less popular, or have lower self-esteem than children of heterosexual parents.

The children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as happy, healthy and well-adjusted as the children of heterosexual parents.
Overview of Lesbian and Gay Parenting, Adoption and Foster Care
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Lots of heterosexual couples create families via surragacy, IVF, and adoption. And lots of heterosexual couples create families when either or both have children from previous relationships. How a family is created is not the issue. The family merits recognition based on simply being a family.

Pedophilia is not homosexuality.

Sexuality often goes hand in hand with sensualism. Sensualism enhances sexual experiences. You may consider homosexuality perversion, I don't. It's just a sexual preference that falls within the range of human sexuality. As a sexual preference, it's rare and not the norm. No one is trying to make it the norm. And efforts to make young people TOLERANT of things that are not the norm do not create confusion. Will people, and not just young people, experiment? Yes. But unless you fear that homosexuality is such great sex that we are all latent homosexuals, and experimentation will make homosexuality the norm, then you have nothing to fear.
It's not fear based, its peer based. The "experimentation" Lesbianism that is rampant in public school, is off the charts... ever since Katie Perry kissed a girl and liked it.

Homo-sexuality is clearly a choice, and by no means a curse that is visited upon a small part of the population as some say.

IVF and surrogacy is not good in my opinion. Adoption for same sex couples certainly serves a need and is valuable.

Homo-sexuals adopting is not acceptable, and is a abrogation of what is right. That is why it is not permitted in most of society. It is not healthy for perverse lifestyles to raise young people.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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The homosexual community has no wish to destroy families at all. In fact, they wish to have families, and their struggle to have their families recognized legally is what these court cases are about. They are pro-family.

They aren't working to force "normalcy", or to force anything. They simply expect to be able to live their lives honestly and openly, both things we should all aspire to.

You can safely continue to feel the way you do about homosexuality. You won't be forced to do anything. And thankfully, you won't be able to force your viewpoints on the rest of us.
Not true. If the Homo-sexuals have their way in the congress, it will be illegal for me to voice my opinion on the matter. It will be termed as hate speech, not free speech.

So that is just another grand issue in the divide.

As well, those that send their kids to the Gov't Pub skools... will have to be indoctrinated to a perverse lifestyle and be educated on Tranny, bi, homo, et al....
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