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Old 12-10-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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I disagree with Yale Prof's "The fly in the ointment that nobody bothered to check"
It has been litigated extensively. No state has ever been compelled to recognize the type of marriage it does not offer. This is not simply a same-sex marriage issue but a general marriage issue.

And anti-gay clowns have achieved their goal of convincing people that Oklahoma (for example) might be forced to recognize a same-sex marriage from (for example) Massachusetts. It's a distraction, and a red-herring. I wish people would stop taking the bait of the bigots and fear merchants.

 
Old 12-10-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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You have something to add?
 
Old 12-10-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Outlook: Same-Sex Legal Questions (washingtonpost.com)
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People in other states have no legitimate interest in forcing Massachusetts to reverse itself -- Massachusetts will do that itself, if and when it wants to -- and those who want to try should certainly not cite the Full Faith and Credit clause in rationalizing their attempts.
http://www.law.yale.edu/news/4174.htm

and I disagree
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: LA County
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You have something to add?
You struggle with meaning? Read your post and then my reply and see how what I posted was in support of your post.

Being too literal in reading can be a handicap.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Being too literal in reading can be a handicap.
Sorry, getting a little late lol...
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Sorry, getting a little late lol...
I know how it feels.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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That notwithstanding, states are not required to recognize marriages from other states of a type that state does not recognize. And they never have been. Note that I am not speaking merely of same-sex marriages here.

This is why all the litigation over DOMA revolves around Section 3, which pertains to federal recognition of state-sanctioned same-sex marriage.
I understand what you are saying, and I am not challenging your assertions.

However ...

Please answer this question: can you cite a case where a marriage had taken place in one state - perhaps it was between two first cousins in a state where it is legal to marry your first cousin, for example - where that marriage was dissolved or the marriage license was revoked when that couple moved to another state where it is technically illegal?
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I understand what you are saying, and I am not challenging your assertions.

However ...

Please answer this question: can you cite a case where a marriage had taken place in one state - perhaps it was between two first cousins in a state where it is legal to marry your first cousin, for example - where that marriage was dissolved or the marriage license was revoked when that couple moved to another state where it is technically illegal?
I'm not sure why anothe state would be digging into ppl's lives to see how many ways they're related. Once cousins married in one state, who is going to challenge the legality?

I understand a same sex couple would be challenged, but cousins?

Once the federal government recognizes ssm, and they will, and allows ssm joint tax returns everything will change.

If a 13 yo girl can marry with parents' consent in one state would her husband be guilty of statutory rape if they traveled into another state?
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I am absolutely positively against denying Jewish people the right to get married even though they are susceptible to many diseases that non-Jews don't get. I am for Marriage Equality. I believe tax paying, voting, adult American citizens should have the right to marry the person they love, even if they are Jewish and and almost exclusively at risk for contracting such lamentable diseases as Tay-Sachs Disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Bloom's Syndrome, Neimann-Pick Disease and a host of others.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Clark Park again.
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