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Old 11-30-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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11-29-2012: This evening, the U.S. Senate voted on Amendment No. 3018 to the National Defense Authorization Act sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), and co-sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul, which protects the rights prescribed to Americans in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution with regard to indefinite detention and the right to a trial by jury.

The amendment passed, 67-29.



Maybe there's still hope after all.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Was this before or after he voted for more sanctions on Iran? The man is a joke and a neocon in libertarian clothing.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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For those keeping score, 25 Republican voted no (compared to 3 Democrats).
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Was this before or after he voted for more sanctions on Iran? The man is a joke and a neocon in libertarian clothing.
neocon? not hardly

The Iranian regime is engaged in the pursuit of nuclear weapons and supports terrorism across the globe. I supported S.Amdt.1414 because the sanctions are targeted to the regime's financing of those activities through the central bank and unlike other sanctions, not against the Iranian people.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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For those keeping score, 25 Republican voted no (compared to 3 Democrats).
About time the dems did something right. 25 is horrible
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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More detailed score-keeping of the NO votes:

Rubio (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
Sessions (R-AL)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Portman (R-OH)
Roberts (R-KS)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Lieberman (ID-CT)

Pryor (D-AR)
Nelson (D-NE)
Manchin (D-WV)
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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About time the dems did something right. 25 is horrible
Keep in mind that it was the Republicans (McCain) who pushed this atrocity of a bill through. Obama gladly signed it because he never passed up an opportunity for more power in his life. The fact that it was signed in the middle of the night, Christmas morning, reveals they didn't want anyone to notice what they were doing.

We all know that the two parties are equally guilty of stepping on our rights. The difference is the Republicans do it under the guise of liberty, and the Democrats do it under the guise of social justice. Either way they no longer work for us, as much as they do special interest and corporations.

The fact that Rubio voted NO has completely changed my opinion of him. He's just a newer slicker version of the same pile of garbage that has been occupying DC for the last thirty years.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Was this before or after he voted for more sanctions on Iran? The man is a joke and a neocon in libertarian clothing.

I'd bet you have no clue what a neocon is.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Was this before or after he voted for more sanctions on Iran? The man is a joke and a Nikon in libertarian clothing.
Rand is not as principled as his dad but is it better to chip away at bad legislation or get nothing? The sanctions on Iraq's central bank could be a smart move, mess with peoples money and they take notice. I also think it is a good thing for Americans to have a right to a trial, don't you?

I have been to the place you are at a purist never bending but in reality the world is not moving in our direction,unfortunately. I am not going to bash Rand for being part of good legislation.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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The fact that Rubio voted NO has completely changed my opinion of him. He's just a newer slicker version of the same pile of garbage that has been occupying DC for the last thirty years.
I am not a fan of Rubio but I liked Toomey and he seems to be from that same pile of garbage.
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