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Old 12-02-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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There's no drought.

Okay, by modern standards -- Global Warming Standards -- it might be, but in terms of the original definitions of drought, this is just the pre-drought period.

The actual drought won't actually happen for another 16 months, and when it does, you'll get to play with that for 9 freaking years.

That will be devastating to your economy. Not only will you be paying more for food prices, but you were all stupid enough to let them push you into Ethanol, and so it will drive up gasoline prices as well --- and then with traffic hampered on the Mississippi, that will wreck havoc on the prices of all things, especially food and gasoline.

Your gasoline is transported up the Mississippi on barges. There are tank farms everywhere. Look on GoogleEarth. If you look on the Ohio River at Cincinnati just to the west (but before you get to the airport) BP has a tank farm and then on the Ohio side Royal Dutch Shell has a tank farm (but an independent company operates it) and then Marathon also has tank farms which supplies independent gasoline dealers and also ExxonMobil.

Gasoline goes by river barge, then from tank farm by truck to the gas stations.

Just to give you an idea of what's involved, one barge -- which is actually 15 barges arranged in a 3x5 format and pushed by a tugboat --- has the same carrying capacity of 870 tanker trucks.

A $1/gallon jump in gasoline price would not be out of the question --

1] look at the difference in transport costs price per gallon
2] you don't have enough trucks -- shortage results in temporary increase in transport costs
3] because you don't have enough trucks there are rolling shortages (no pun intended) where some cities/areas will run out of gasoline --- rationing or limitations/restrictions on purchases may be needed.

Oh, yeah, ethanol. Ethanol is transported by barge and truck to refineries where it is blended by gasoline, so that would drive up the price of ethanol as well.

And the truck shortage...that will affect the prices of all bulk liquids --- that means health care costs go up because of bulk oxygen, nitrogen etc etc transported in tanker trucks.

It would probably affect everything -- I know independent drivers will take the highest paid runs, so they'll dump trailers to drag tankers (at least those who are HAZMAT qualified for tankers) and that will cause a shortage of truck drivers hauling dry goods -- which will cause prices to rise.

Good luck with that.

Barging....

Mircea
Yep my brother in law is a truck driver lives just outside of St. Louis. Says he is gonna be raking in the dough soon.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Nature and the Mississippi River will do what they will do.
I believe that if humankind had an ability to partly reverse the effects of global warming, that ability should have been applied 10 years or more ago. We are so near to the tipping point now that there may be nothing we can do about it now.
The geological record shows that when the earth warmed and cooled in the past, there were prolonged periods of drastic weather shifts for a long time before the planet cooled down or warmed up. I think that we will all live in extreme weather changes now for the foreseeable future, with major periods of floods, droughts, heat and cold all having a go at us in turn. And each will persist longer than what we have known.
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