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I read a lot on here about the evils of socialism (even as mis-applied to Obama).
It is extremely easy to cite 'socialist' countries (those where taxes are high and where governments are rather large) which are really quite nice: Scandanavia, much of Western Europe, Canada, etc.
What I would like to see are examples of conservative countries that are so great to live in. What I'm asking is for posters on here to cite countries that are examples of conservative utopias.
I read a lot on here about the evils of socialism (even as mis-applied to Obama).
It is extremely easy to cite 'socialist' countries (those where taxes are high and where governments are rather large) which are really quite nice: Scandanavia, much of Western Europe, Canada, etc.
What I would like to see are examples of conservative countries that are so great to live in. What I'm asking is for posters on here to cite countries that are examples of conservative utopias.
The U.S. But it is up to you to do what it takes to make it. It is NOT going to be handed to you and that is why you think capitalism is bad. The only reason you like Obama is because you THINK he will hand it to you. I will make you a bet... I will bet that 4 years from now you will not be rich.
The U.S. But it is up to you to do what it takes to make it. It is NOT going to be handed to you and that is why you think capitalism is bad. The only reason you like Obama is because you THINK he will hand it to you. I will make you a bet... I will bet that 4 years from now you will not be rich.
Ok, the US.
That is one. Unless more countries can be cited, the US would have to be considered an outlier, an exception.
The rest of your post is irrelevant at best and lunacy at worst.
Ok, the US.
That is one. Unless more countries can be cited, the US would have to be considered an outlier, an exception.
The rest of your post is irrelevant at best and lunacy at worst.
P.S. I don't like Obama, so try again.
The US is center right but not conservative. Both the Senate & executive branch are center to center left with the house and judicial branch being to the right. So the US shouldn't be used as an example of conservative governing.
If it wasn't for the liberal agenda in the US worker rights, civil rights, environmental policy, etc. would all be behind the rest of the world. So no conservationism hasn't been a factor in moving us forward.
The US is center right but not conservative. Both the Senate & executive branch are center to center left with the house and judicial branch being to the right. So the US shouldn't be used as an example of conservative governing.
If it wasn't for the liberal agenda in the US worker rights, civil rights, environmental policy, etc. would all be behind the rest of the world. So no conservationism hasn't been a factor in moving us forward.
Agreed.
I have a hard time believing that out of all the conservatives on here none can cite a model for their conservative paradise.
Surely there must be a shining beacon to aspire to?
I know of many conservative countries, of course, but I can't decide which would be the best example.
What happens when you compare two US cities. New Orleans versus San Francisco for instance. Or California vs. Arkansas.
If your government is the ultimate pro-business kick ass government or conservative ideal, you can't just quickly change the demographics and social conditions on the ground. Comparing US to "evil socialist" countries is about as valid.
Yet you have to scratch your head, when you look at the top companies list.
US has 132 fortune 500 companies, next closest China with 73. France?
Apple, Google, Intel, AMD, Cisco. ..
We are doing something right. . .
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Originally Posted by jeffpv
I read a lot on here about the evils of socialism (even as mis-applied to Obama).
It is extremely easy to cite 'socialist' countries (those where taxes are high and where governments are rather large) which are really quite nice: Scandanavia, much of Western Europe, Canada, etc.
What I would like to see are examples of conservative countries that are so great to live in. What I'm asking is for posters on here to cite countries that are examples of conservative utopias.
I read a lot on here about the evils of socialism (even as mis-applied to Obama).
It is extremely easy to cite 'socialist' countries (those where taxes are high and where governments are rather large) which are really quite nice: Scandanavia, much of Western Europe, Canada, etc.
What I would like to see are examples of conservative countries that are so great to live in. What I'm asking is for posters on here to cite countries that are examples of conservative utopias.
Agreed.
I have a hard time believing that out of all the conservatives on here none can cite a model for their conservative paradise.
Surely there must be a shining beacon to aspire to?
I know of many conservative countries, of course, but I can't decide which would be the best example.
There is NO model for a socialist paradise either. I mean look no further than Europe and as it struggles to pay out entitlements, watching medical costs continue to grow, and a bunch of countries going bankrupt.
I'll take our employment rate over the Euro zone rate (11.6% Eurozone vs 7.9% US) and our recovery over theirs any day.
They are paying for their policies, I see no model for social paradise either.
The US is center right but not conservative. Both the Senate & executive branch are center to center left with the house and judicial branch being to the right. So the US shouldn't be used as an example of conservative governing.
If it wasn't for the liberal agenda in the US worker rights, civil rights, environmental policy, etc. would all be behind the rest of the world. So no conservationism hasn't been a factor in moving us forward.
An argument can be made that the Conservative Movement has more than anything else impeded the social progress of the United States.
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