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Old 12-09-2012, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There are quite a number of things Mich legislature will have to clean up for, after the 2014 elections clear the nuts out.



i agree - liberal and Democrats should always be voted out.

'Liberal" and "Democrat" is synonomous with "nut".

Call them LWNJ'S.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Right. You don't have to join. They just take your money anyway.
They collect your fees and represent you whether you're a member or not.

Payment for services any way you look at it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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They collect your fees and represent you whether you're a member or not.

Payment for services any way you look at it.
What "services"?
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:13 AM
 
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a quick check on wiki shows that pay, health benefits and pensions are all lower in RTW states.

so why does anyone want this system, other than to exploit the workers?
Cost of living is also much lower.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Why did the governor of Michigan change his mind, why was this put through in just a few days?
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Stephen Henderson: Do the math: Right-to-work makes absolutely no sense for Michigan | Local columnists | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

This basically sums up the "agenda" for the right to work advocates and the numbers after states adopt this idealogy.
Dosen't really look like a brighter future..
That is true. Over 10 years after Oklahoma passed right to work, that state remains as a highly undesirable place to go to for a decent paying job.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Why did the governor of Michigan change his mind, why was this put through in just a few days?
The Koch brothers and their money engineered it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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The Republicons are goosestepping this
legislative abortion through their Reichstag as their insatiable lust for power grows like a tumor.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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'Right to Work' - what is this exactly?
All "right to work" does is prevents the mandatory payment of union dues or fees from non-union employees working at a "union" company. No one can be forced to join a union (though unions often use fear and intimidation on non-members). In some back-azzwards states, they can force non-members, not represented by the union, to pay "fees" equivalent to dues. RTW prevents this kind of thuggish action.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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All "right to work" does is prevents the mandatory payment of union dues or fees from non-union employees working at a "union" company. No one can be forced to join a union (though unions often use fear and intimidation on non-members). In some back-azzwards states, they can force non-members, not represented by the union, to pay "fees" equivalent to dues. RTW prevents this kind of thuggish action.

Yes, but it also ends up weakening labor unions, lowering wages, and reducing healthcare benefits for workers.

The U.S. is rapidly doing away with unions. Don't people realize there has to be some counter-balance to greedy corporate interests. Do people want to end up like the garment workers in Bangladesh who make $38 a month working 12 hour days 6 days a week?

Stephen Henderson: Do the math: Right-to-work makes absolutely no sense for Michigan | Local columnists | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

What do ‘right-to-work’ laws do to a state’s economy?
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