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Old 12-08-2012, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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No the right wings luv their country...Its the left wing that's ruining country with out of control spending...even you raise the taxes on supposedly 1% that don't pay their fair share...it'll only run the government for 8 days...how are you going to run the government for the remaining 357 days without running a deficit?????????
Answer: Have EVERYONE pay to support the government. You cannot have 47% of the people not paying for the government, many of them taking hand outs from the government and have a system that works. Eventually, you run out of money and the bank says no to new loans. Then what?
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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Uh, just how is paying its investors early saving the Washing Post on taxes?
my buddy...Burdell...I thought you had died...
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Was deficit spending a concern for you from the year 2000 to 2008?
I blame to an extent the republicans as well...
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:00 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Uh, just how is paying its investors early saving the Washing Post on taxes?
Well, it does protect the investors from paying higher taxes on those dividends. It also shifts the payout into this year. There may be a benefit to WP in doing that? Doesn't matter, really. The point is, they are paying the investors early to shelter them from the increased taxes they would have to pay if they paid them after January first.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:02 AM
 
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Well, it does protect the investors from paying higher taxes on those dividends. It also shifts the payout into this year. There may be a benefit to WP in doing that? Doesn't matter, really. The point is, they are paying the investors early to shelter them from the increased taxes they would have to pay if they paid them after January first.
Excellent point!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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my buddy...Burdell...I thought you had died...
We couldn't be so lucky!
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Don't you luv it... leftwing Washington Post trying not to pay its fair share

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In other words, you see this as hypocrisy that a paper that is "left-wing" (although it isn't) must support higher taxes, and therefore, shouldn't try to minimize taxes for its stockholders.

What you are arguing is the same as this: Conservative who were the victim of a hurricane or tornado, are hypocrites if they accept FEMA aide.

The fact is, we have laws on the books and they apply to everyone. I may not like a provision of the law but if it helps me in my situation, there is no principled ground to stand on to refuse what is due me.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Answer: Have EVERYONE pay to support the government. You cannot have 47% of the people not paying for the government, many of them taking hand outs from the government and have a system that works. Eventually, you run out of money and the bank says no to new loans. Then what?
What you are saying is just a repeat of a failed talking point. Most of those people you accuse of taking "handouts" are people who just don't earn enough income to be eligible to pay income taxes. These people do pay taxes -- payroll taxes.

Then there are the elderly who paid their taxes during their working lives. Do you think it's fair to tax these people, when their retirement income drops? I don't.

Moreover, forcing this group to pay taxes doesn't raise much revenue. That's not where the money is.


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Old 12-08-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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a paper that is "left-wing" (although it isn't)
If you say so...

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What you are arguing is the same as this: Conservative who were the victim of a hurricane or tornado, are hypocrites if they accept FEMA aide.
Your right...it is hypocrisy...just like the hypocrite washington post
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't you luv it... leftwing Washington Post trying not to pay its fair share

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That's nonsense, the Washington Post is doing what every company and individual does to avoid paying taxes at higher rate. The tax code has changed hundreds of times over the years, this is no different than tax planning in any other year, except that next year is still an unknown and we are in December.

Did you also put up a thread regarding Romney's Swiss Bank and Caymen Islands accounts.
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