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Old 12-14-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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Society demands these people be passed ahead since it would make them 'FEEL' less than equal if they learned the truth.

I bet when you find out the truth it just makes some of them want to KILL!
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What exactly do you propose one does when one notices someone is weird or strange?
Call 1-800-HEWEIRD
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The real reason is that everyone is so focused on young black men with hoodies minding their own business that they routinely turn a blind eye to the taciturn white kid lurking and festering in the suburban shadows.
In both cases..young men barely out of high school committing violence and either ending their own life or having someone else end it.

Take skin color and economic status out of the picture and you have "young adult males barely out of high school" committing violence and murder.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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You're making a pretty big logical leap. There's a pretty big difference between someone who's doesn't conform to all of societies norms and someone who is severely mentally ill.
It's funny, people are trashing the OP but Dr. Drew kind of was arguing the same point on CNN today. For the last 30 years we're been pushing people with mental illness in to normal society, starting in schools, in hopes of improving their lives. For some that probably works, but in other cases it has been a disaster. I don't think the asylums of the 19 century are the answer either, but this is something that does need to be re-examined.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:50 PM
 
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It's funny, people are trashing the OP but Dr. Drew kind of was arguing the same point on CNN today. For the last 30 years we're been pushing people with mental illness in to normal society, starting in schools, in hopes of improving their lives. For some that probably works, but in other cases it has been a disaster. I don't think the asylums of the 19 century are the answer either, but this is something that does need to be re-examined.
I just posted this on another thread that speaks to what you just said.

"Social reforms that occur too quickly or promise radical change often fail. Retrenchment and blaming of the reforms’ beneficiaries typically follow. Indeed, prolific author and psychiatrist E. Fuller Torrey outlines in his new book, The Insanity Offense, two quixotic reforms of the 1960s and 1970s that followed just this pattern: the adoption of cost cutting deinstitutionalization policies that whittled down American public mental hospital patients from more than 550,000 in 1955 to fewer than 40,000 at present (despite the nation’s population having doubled); and the extension of civil rights to those with mental illness that make it nearly impossible to commit someone to a mental facility involuntarily. (A half century ago, all it took to commit a patient was a psychiatric recommendation and a judicial order.)
These reforms, which emanated from a curious combination of conservative, libertarian, and liberal forces, have allowed people, who are sometimes dangerous and who often lack insight into their deteriorated mental states, to languish in decrepit community facilities or even on city streets, without any means of getting the treatment they so urgently need. The results sometimes make headlines: People with paranoia and psychotic thought processes have committed brutal acts. But more often, the reforms have led to tragic, wasted lives of homelessness, despair, and victimization. Far too many people may be “dying with their rights on,†as Wisconsin psychiatrist Darold A. Treffert has put it."


http://www.nhmh.org/news_items/one-f...ill-are-needed
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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we live in a society where being "different" is now not only widely accepted, but even celebrated?
You crave the converse?
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Earlier this year on the Discovery ID channel there was a series on psychopaths. Not all psychopaths commit mass murder but nearly all mass murders are psychopaths. Apparently most psychopaths have a genetic marker which correlates to how the brain functions in regard to pleasurable stimulii and stimulii that case empathetic responses. Psychopaths can literally turn these responses on and off. This is a very useful trait for a mass murderrer who no longer views his victims as any thing but animals and may find the act of killing pleasurable. Now putting your emotions into neutral can be put to useful purposes.
A study found this genetic marker was 4 times more prevelent in Wall Street Partners in high Finance and in other places where a killer instinct is advantageous. Now back to question of why it is so hard to ferrit these potential mass murders out before it is too late. Well they may be perfectly normal until they flip the switch and cease to be empathetic and find murder fun.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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Maybe alternative school is a good program for "different" students. Why keep pounding their round bodies into a square hole?

Last edited by flip33; 12-15-2012 at 06:40 AM.. Reason: grammar
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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The point is that we aren't allowed to notice any type of abnormality or difference. And are you saying that there aren't any subtle indications of being mentally ill?
Sometimes. On the other hand, there are a lot of "quiet, socially withdrawn, troubled," white young men in existence. Only a minute handful end up being mass murderers.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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You know everytime one these shootings happen, we turn on the TV and hear the same rhetoric, time and time again. "why didn't anyone see this coming" "they must have shown signs of being mentaly ill but no one caught it" "how can we better handle the mentally unsound" "we have to find a way to know who these people are and keep weapons out of their hands" and on and on it goes.

It is in my opinion though, that we are living in the products of our own making. Did you ever consider that maybe these psychotics go undetected, is because we live in a society where being "different" is now not only widely accepted, but even celebrated? And god forbid that anyone remark or mention someones abnormalities, because if they dare to notice that someone may be a little different, they are suddenly labeled as a "bully"..... Children in this day and age are now force fed with the notions that "everyone is special" and that no one is "weird" and everyone has to be coddled and embraced for "who they are"

Maybe nothing can be done about these NUTJOBS because of societies desire to be so politically correct....

Ever think about that???
There is much truth here. There was a time when we locked the mentally ill up to protect both them and us.
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