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After stating your case, you would be vetted and your permit would allow you to purchase what has been determined to be a reasonable amount for your purposes. Too many purchases, or you exceed the amount, you get a visit from the ATF - or better yet, you simply are denied at the point of purchase. Or, you purchase the ammo at the range, use what you want, and then return the rest for credit - I like that idea better, no large amount of ammunition in your home.
Why should the gangsters in my neighborhood care about any of that, it won't slow down their killing of innocent people or robbing law abiding citizens. They can still carry all the guns they want because they don't care too much about laws.
Well, if you want me to decide, I'd give all of you gun lovers one Barney Fife bullet. When that one's gone, you get another...
I have no idea of what a "large amount" would be. I guess that it would depend on the needs the person applying for a permit. Except for target practice, for which you would purchase bullets at the range, I can't think of a reason why anyone would need very large amounts of hand gun ammunition.
Why should the gangsters in my neighborhood care about any of that, it won't slow down their killing of innocent people or robbing law abiding citizens. They can still carry all the guns they want because they don't care too much about laws.
You can keep your guns - and I'll even throw in a bullet or two for each of them. That should protect you from all the gun wielding gangsters who roam your neighborhood. Do you feel safer now?
You can keep your guns - and I'll even throw in a bullet or two for each of them. That should protect you from all the gun wielding gangsters that roam your neighborhood. Do you feel safer now?
Actually I do, thanks. It's better than walking around defensless.
After stating your case, you would be vetted and your permit would allow you to purchase what has been determined to be a reasonable amount for your purposes.
Define "reasonable" and who other than me determines my "purposes".
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni
Define "large amount".
See above.
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Originally Posted by ray1945
Well, if you want me to decide, I'd give all of you gun lovers one Barney Fife bullet. When that one's gone, you get another...
I have no idea of what a "large amount" would be. I guess that it would depend on the needs the person applying for a permit. Except for target practice, for which you would purchase bullets at the range, I can't think of a reason why anyone would need very large amounts of hand gun ammunition.
And who determines what my "needs" are? I typically have at least several hundred rounds in my gun safe, plus what is kept loaded in my go-to gun. Do you think 6 is reasonable? 12? 20? 100? Of each caliber or total? I have 9mm, .22, .38, .380, 5.56mm, .223, .45.... etc.
I buy in bulk as range prices are outrageous. And what would limit me from casting and loading my own?
How typical, liberals have no problem murdering the unborn but when 20 REAL babies are killed all they want to do is ban guns and make excuses for the murderer. Radical rightwing people are consistent, they think BOTH killings should be illegal would want both people who kill children punished, the people who perform abortions and the murderer. Liberals on the other hand don't care about aborted babies and only care about banning guns when children are murdered.
You people are disgusting and pathetic. You just can't wait to dance in the blood of those children, can you.
I've heard a lot of backwoods things in my life but this takes the cake.
Look at other countries, for example Switzerland..some Facts for those that care to be informed..
Police statistics for the year 2006[12] records 34 killings or attempted killings involving firearms, compared to 69 cases involving bladed weapons and 16 cases of unarmed assault. Cases of assault resulting in bodily harm numbered 89 (firearms) and 526 (bladed weapons). As of 2007, Switzerland had a population of about 7,600,000. This would put the rate of killings or attempted killings with firearms at about one for every quarter million residents yearly. This represents a decline of aggravated assaults involving firearms since the early 1990s. The majority of gun crimes involving domestic violence are perpetrated with army ordnance weapons, while the majority of gun crime outside the domestic sphere involves illegally held firearms.[13]
The low incidence of gun crime in Switzerland is sometimes attributed to the fact that Switzerland is wealthy but also isolated. Social problems associated with gun crime in other industrialised countries, such as drugs or urban deprivation, are not widespread. Swiss men and women learn from an early age to associate firearms with defense of their country.[14] While Switzerland has a strong 'Gun Culture', and hunting is popular, the high level of support for guns in the home is largely based around the fact that Militia service is such a strong part of Swiss society. In Switzerland the vast majority of gun related deaths are from suicide rather than homicide.
It's a social issue here, and the facts support it. As a gun owner, and someone who has enjoyed using them for hunting and recreation since being a child, this disturbing act involved someone who was clearly insane. My guns are locked up, as by law here, and have Never had an incident involving there use. I'm sure most legally owning gun owners will attest to the same. We follow the laws, we had training in using them safely, and we are not Insane. Do i believe in mandatory back round checks and restrictions..yes.
But the simple minded argument to Ban guns is Insane in it's own rite. I know many woman, who have a license to carry, out of fear of being raped or assaulted, you don't see them on the news killing the masses.
It's disturbing reading some of the posts here, as i feel the next Insane person is looking right at us making posts. This is a social issue, and a testament that this country has been in a downward spiral for years, and we are now seeing the results.
Political correctness out of control, and catering to the Minority, not the Majority..and of course, god forbid someones "feeling" get hurt. It's ironic many of these killings happen at school's, perhaps we need to take a look at the current teaching system, and how that has CHANGED in the past 20 years. Are they not some of the most influential people on children.
I find this whole tragedy, just that, a tragedy and am sickened by it. But to say Ban guns and the problems will go away is utter nonsense.
Big Brother taking your guns will not keep you safe from mass violence.
If someone is intent on making a "social statement" by committing mass killings they will do so and find a way to do it.
We already know they don't fear death because they have taken their lives after committing these acts.
Like suicide bombers.
Would you rather see that start happening in the US ?
Interesting...The recent knife attack in China left 23 people INJURED. Not dead.
People can carry guns..as many as they want. But you better know where every one of them is at all times and be certain that they stay OUT OF THE HANDS of unstable family members, strangers, friends, etc.
This is where the problems lies. Guns are being used on the innocent.
I hardly ever read any stories where a person was armed and fought off an intruder and saved people. It's ususally the opposite..someone gets angry and kills a family member.
Define "reasonable" and who other than me determines my "purposes".
See above.
And who determines what my "needs" are? I typically have at least several hundred rounds in my gun safe, plus what is kept loaded in my go-to gun. Do you think 6 is reasonable? 12? 20? 100? Of each caliber or total? I have 9mm, .22, .38, .380, 5.56mm, .223, .45.... etc.
I buy in bulk as range prices are outrageous. And what would limit me from casting and loading my own?
I don't think anyone "needs" hundreds of rounds of handgun ammunition. As I have stated in previous posts, if left to me, you'd get one for each gun. However, I am not a gun person, so what I think doesn't really count. Committees that include members who are gun aficionados would convene and ultimately decide the answers to your questions.
You would be free to cast and load your own, as long as your did not sell to others.
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