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View Poll Results: Do you predict that federal laws pertaining to semi-automatic handgun ownership will become more str
Yes, but I'm personally opposed to new restrictions. 34 21.94%
Yes, and I'm personally in favor of new restrictions. 43 27.74%
No, I don't believe that new restrictions will be actually be enacted--I don't support gun control. 42 27.10%
No, and it's shameful that new restrictions won't be enacted--I'm in favor of more gun control. 36 23.23%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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10 shot, including 4 teens, Friday afternoon and night - chicagotribune.com

Why don't we just follow the example of the Windy City? Do you think the problem in Chicago is the guns, gun laws, or the actual criminals? Do you think Chicago needs stronger regulations on guns, or not?
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Can't rep you again, but this is exactly what I've been saying.

America is the only country where devices that are designed to kill are considered entertainment and status symbols. And we're shocked, SHOCKED when the occasional nut ball decides to use them as intended.
It's time to amend the Second Amendment to be more in line with the reality of firearms of the 21st century. The "rights" of the gun loving wild west wannabes should not be allowed to continue to usurp the rights of the rest of us to life.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Getting rid of the guns does not automatically get rid of the violence that is happening.
Correct, America needs a better (universal) health care system:

The Anarchist Soccer Mom

"At least we have health insurance now. I recently accepted a position with a local college, giving up my freelance career because when you have a kid like this, you need benefits. You’ll do anything for benefits. No individual insurance plan will cover this kind of thing.

No one wants to send a 13-year old genius who loves Harry Potter and his snuggle animal collection to jail. But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options. Then another tortured soul shoots up a fast food restaurant. A mall. A kindergarten classroom. And we wring our hands and say, “Something must be done.”

I agree that something must be done. It’s time for a meaningful, nation-wide conversation about mental health. That’s the only way our nation can ever truly heal."
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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It's time to amend the Second Amendment to be more in line with the reality of firearms of the 21st century. The "rights" of the gun loving wild west wannabes should not be allowed to continue to usurp the rights of the rest of us to life.
I "amend" we call the FBI on you and get you a Federal NICS.

I hope you pass?!
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: WY
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10 people -all young. It is so commonplace now that it doesn't make the national news and barely registers at the local level. It's like making a grocery shopping list before heading for the store - 1 16 year old, 1 15 year old, 2 sixteen year olds, 1 21 year old.

Your point is well taken. It's not guns. It's the crap-hole swamp-land sewer-system that our culture has become.

Children raising themselves. An accepting drug culture. No moral compass - no parents, no church, no teachers, nobody who truly cares. An overburdened welfare system, health care system, legal system, social services system. Too many meds and not enough care. Children growing up in the "everybody gets a trophy" environment where nobody wins and nobody loses and we-must-reinforce-their-self-esteem even when they have done nothing to receive praise. Being raised in an environment where they learn no coping skills, where they can get in trouble for bringing a butter knife to school, where they can communicate more easily through electronic means than face to face.

There are plenty of parents who take responsibility for raising their children. Who teach them coping skills, core values, the difference between right and wrong, a work ethic and a moral compass. But there are many kids (too many kids) who are left to their own devices. The parents don't care and the kids learn how not to care.

It's not guns. It's the sewer system we're raising our kids in.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: DFW
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The solution to the overwhelming amount of gun violence in the U.S. is not more guns.
There are at least 300 Millions guns already in the US. Do you purpose many be confiscated ?
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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10 shot, including 4 teens, Friday afternoon and night - chicagotribune.com

Why don't we just follow the example of the Windy City? Do you think the problem in Chicago is the guns, gun laws, or the actual criminals? Do you think Chicago needs stronger regulations on guns, or not?
And where do they get the guns from????

Downstate redneck straw buyers and from criminal's who break into people's homes...
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: DFW
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It's time to amend the Second Amendment to be more in line with the reality of firearms of the 21st century. The "rights" of the gun loving wild west wannabes should not be allowed to continue to usurp the rights of the rest of us to life.
Then it's time to amend the 1st amendment to prevent offensive posts like yours. Rights to freedom of speech should not be allowed to continue to usurp the rights of the rest of us.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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The solution to the overwhelming amount of gun violence in the U.S. is not more guns.
YES, it is.

More guns in the proper hands.


Hands that respect the basic morality of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


You will never keep guns out of the hands that do not respect those ideals. The solution is to put more guns in the hands of those that do.

Remember M.A.D. (mutually assured destruction)? When the one seeking to use offense to do harm, is pretty much assured that someone will stop him with equal, or potentially superior response....these episodes will stop. Unless, the deranged has a death wish to begin with. Then nature takes it's course, and culls that individual from society.

There are two sides to every story. Gun "control" advocates only present one side. The one they advocate.
When the other side is not presented, the side that is wins by default. I'm merely pointing out that there is a more rational way to look at the problem.

Nature has a way of correcting all problems. Ponder that for a bit.


YC.......
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In Chicago in certain parts it has more to do with high poverty and gangs that seem like the only option for the young people living in those areas. If Chicago is going to tackle the violence in parts of its city it is going to need to tackle poverty and how children are raised and educated in those neighborhoods while providing them a safe atmosphere to learn.
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