Knee jerk reactions..the problem is NOT guns (economic, goverment, Michigan)

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Used to be able to buy a gun at a hardware store, the problem is not availability.

The problem is crakpottery.


It seems to me the solution would be to limit sales to folks with a background of antisocial behavior/pyschotic episodes.

[cecilsav]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

it is a politician problem, after all who made it so our teachers would never be able to be trained and armed to protect our children?

I'm thinking that in a civilized society teachers wouldn't have to be armed in the first place?

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

It is idiocy, I admit. But really, all these guns we have in this country causing all this carnage is the real idiocy.

Giving governments a monopoly on arms has a long track record of leading to mass murder on a massive scale.

[Old Army Soldier]

Originally Posted by JRR

Been out to the theatre watching Red Dawn?

Red Dawn has nothing to do with it. EMP attacks are possible in a first strike attack.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by cecilsav

I'm thinking that in a civilized society teachers wouldn't have to be armed in the first place?

well guess what, you would be wrong. there shall always be criminals and people who want to do children wrong. in Israel the teachers are armed against the criminal element and terrorists. why are our teachers not trained and armed the same way they are?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

They didn't have weapons of mass destruction in mind. Any weapon that can be fired repeatedly without reloading should NOT be under the 2nd amendment. So if you want to own a single shot bolt action deer hunting rifle, that's about all that should be allowed IMO.

They should go house to house and collect every damn gun in the country after this.

So, you'd prefer Nazi Germany, ok.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by cuebald

Which "well-regulated militia" are you a member of...?

Originally Posted by Hasdrubal

End of discussion

you two really need to educate yourselves.
the supreme court upheld the right to keep and bear arms as an idividual right more than four years ago

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA et al.v. HELLER

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by cecilsav

Good Lord. The government doesn't need you to help defend against an invasion. Maybe over 200 years ago when this outdated amendment was written they did. But this is not Red Dawn.

LOL

I see you've never heard of Pearl Harbor or Dutch Harbor either huh?

Is this what our public schools produce? Complacent pacifists completely devoid of history????

[Oleg Bach]

What is it now...embrace a backward way of life? Live like Taliban in Afghanistan who carry around an AK47 and call it normal. Guns are not the answer...cleaning up the culture is the answer...for starters get those parasites in Hollywood under control who eat the flesh of children with their so-called entertainment were guns are every where. Guns have replaced the penis of American males and we send billions to Hollywood to those who have chopped it off.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Hasdrubal

So where's the regulated militia? The Founding Fathers wanted the American citziens to form a "well regulated milita" in order to protect the people's rights. Allowing every possible madman to get automatic weapons has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment! Plus, that text belonged to an era where the Revolutionary War was recent and the fear of Brits invading the country was in everyone's minds.

Ths current gun issue is only due to NRA lobbyst putting $$ inside the Congressmen pockets. Nothing to do with personal freedom.

God bless those killed today, who sadly wont be the last ones.

well regulated, read up on that. it means nothing about making laws. it means something different that modern day language doesnt want to read into.