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Old 12-16-2012, 11:58 PM
 
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What you will see is a well put together list of violent acts in the last 20 years that are school related that will open your eyes. It will show that the problem is Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors or otherwise known as SSRI's that have been prescribed to these individuals. What is amazing is in the 20 years prior to the year 2000, events like we are seeing recently are practically non existent.


Look at this list of the 66 incidents.
Index to SSRI Stories


I want you to listen to Moira Dolan, MD who explains how the SSRI class of antidepressants are causing mass murders and school shootings. She talks about how in the past 20 years mass shootings have increased at the same time SSRI's have been used--in spite of the fact that stricter guns laws have been enforced during that same time period. 10 minutes:


Can Antidepressants Cause Violence? - YouTube


Here is the list of SSRI drugs:
Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:58 PM
 
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I believe this theory has some credibility.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:00 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I've seen this. This is one theory that I'm actually open to and find intriguing. It's still unresolved right now. I'd be interested to know how our rate of consumption of these drugs compares to that of other nations.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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Um.
People who take SSRIs do so because their brain chemistry is out of whack.

So which is it? The crazy person or the drug to help the crazy person?

Could be either, but there's some pretty obvious correlation here that may negate the causation argument you seek to make.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:11 AM
 
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Interesting.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:31 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Um.
People who take SSRIs do so because their brain chemistry is out of whack.

So which is it? The crazy person or the drug to help the crazy person?

Could be either, but there's some pretty obvious correlation here that may negate the causation argument you seek to make.
Many SSRIs supposedly have, as a possible side effect in some, increased tendencies toward violent and suicidal emotions.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Many SSRIs supposedly have, as a possible side effect in some, increased tendencies toward violent and suicidal emotions.
Yes. It is well known that at the beginning of the course of medication, there is an increased tendency towards suicidal thoughts/inclinations. But that is not what this woman is asserting.

Another question - if you didn't treat these people at all...then what would they do?
Kinda damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Not to mention the millions of people on this medication that haven't spontaneously turned violent. Maybe the drug is a trigger in those who are apt to be...but then what else could be a trigger?
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:49 AM
 
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Many SSRIs supposedly have, as a possible side effect in some, increased tendencies toward violent and suicidal emotions.
Agreed. According to what I have been reading around the message boards, Lanza's uncle say's (not confirmed) he was prescribed Fanapt, which is a second generation antipsychotic medication commonly used to treat schizophrenia. It was just OK'd by the FDA in 2009.


Fanapt Side Affects:
DoubleCheckMD Side Effects -

Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:50 AM
 
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Things like this will never be brought up. That is why they are not looking at serious solutions they are just using this to push their anti gun agenda. No shock as we knew this all along.

We also hear scream about the gun lobby but none about the pharmaceutical lobby who is drugging our children. Folks don't really care.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:55 AM
 
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Things like this will never be brought up. That is why they are not looking at serious solutions they are just using this to push their anti gun agenda. No shock as we knew this all along.

We also hear scream about the gun lobby but none about the pharmaceutical lobby who is drugging our children. Folks don't really care.
Well if the anti gun folks are going to ignore this med problem, the pro gun advocates are going to have to commit just as much effort and money to counter them so this can be brought to light and raise awareness. Some on the left on this thread agree that prescribing these antipsychotic meds can lead to problems.
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