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Communication is important. What needs to be communicated to the disturbed is not special consideration, thats for the contained ....communication that things like this are simply impossible to express. If a public release was made authorizing carriers in the 1000's upon review the women and children in the communities would feel safer. Pull out a gun in a public place and you have a dozen guns in your face in seconds. I don't understand why you would work against the 1000's of guns out there owned by good people when they are so easy to get by the disturbed people. In short a new environment is in need where the disturbed violent person is showed zero mercy. Theres too much about the sickness for my liking, leave it in the clinic where you have control doc... and not enough about your going down in seconds if you think society is the villain.
You do realize that most violent crime against women is by her intimate partner. Right?
I don't need to be protected BY men. I need to be protected FROM men. And I can do that all by myself.
It's something to think about. There has never been a murder or a mass shooting at a Gun Show. Do you think there is a reason for this? I mean think about it. There are thousands of firearms at every gun show held every weekend somewhere within the United States.................yet not one record of a person or persons ever going on a shooting spree to purposely kill people. That pretty much speaks volumes.
What are you suggesting? That we hold guns shows in the hallways of elementary schools?
I that the people that do things like this will go after the weaker people of society, not the ones that are likely armed and able to protect themselves.
"As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.
Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision.
How did the armed citizen stop him, since the armed citizen took cover? The story didn't say that the armed citizen spoke to the gunman. The citizen said that the gunman saw him, but I wonder how since he was behind a pillar, and then went into a store.
Maybe the gunman had already decided to kill himself.
How did the armed citizen stop him, since the armed citizen took cover? The story didn't say that the armed citizen spoke to the gunman. The citizen said that the gunman saw him, but I wonder how since he was behind a pillar, and then went into a store.
Maybe the gunman had already decided to kill himself.
I took it to say(after reading 3 different articles) that the gunman retreated after seeing Nick Meli with his gun drawn.
I that the people that do things like this will go after the weaker people of society, not the ones that are likely armed and able to protect themselves.
I did not know this. This very well could of saved many lives and obviously changed the whole event. The authorities should be talking about this and encouraging people to follow. The path to take guns away makes no sense at all. Hypothetically....if every disturbed person.."thought and believed: people everywhere had a very aggressive gun in their pocket, there would be no attempt as attempts are known. Therefore thats the way to go.
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I took it to say(after reading 3 different articles) that the gunman retreated after seeing Nick Meli with his gun drawn.
The only person who said that the gunman saw him is the citizen. The gun man might have been looking in the general direction, but how far away was he? He was taking cover behind a pillar, so how much of him was showing? He wasn't standing out in the open and aiming at the gunman, he SAID he was taking cover.
Taking cover is usually putting something between you and the other person (pillar). How did the gunman see him through a pillar?
I think that the citizen did the right thing in not firing inside a mall. He said himself, that there was a chance that he might have hit another person. He used good judgement in this situation. I commend him for staying level headed, calm, using reason, and basically doing what anyone who has a CW license is trained to do.
Most CHL holders have had training, and are required to pass some sort of test. I have no problem with them at all. The number of shootings by CHL holders is extremely low. (about 139 since May 2007)
But they are humans too. Some go off the deep end.
The number of killings by concealed handgun permit holders since since May 2007 has hit 139, according to the February update to the Violence Policy Center's Concealed Carry Killers web site. Included in the killings are nine dead law enforcement officers, 13 mass shootings, and 11 murder-suicides.
I'm sure the majority of deaths were for self protection, but there were others. There is no group that is 100% good all the time.
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