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Old 12-17-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Austin
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VT has virtually NO gun control laws and ranks #34 in firearm death rate. No gun registration. No permit needed to carry. No permit needed to purchase. No license needed for rifles, shotguns or handguns, etc, etc.

New Hampshire has very few gun control laws and ranks #45. No permit to purchase. No license needed. No assault weapons ban, etc, etc.

Wash DC has extremely restrictive gun control laws and ranks #1 (by a wide margin) in the firearms death rate. In fact, DC's firearm death rate is THREE TIMES as high as VT and almost SIX TIMES as high as NH.

If highly restrictive gun control laws work, why not in DC?
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Live - VT, Work - MA
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VT has virtually NO gun control laws and ranks #34 in firearm death rate. No gun registration. No permit needed to carry. No permit needed to purchase. No license needed for rifles, shotguns or handguns, etc, etc.

New Hampshire has very few gun control laws and ranks #45. No permit to purchase. No license needed. No assault weapons ban, etc, etc.

Wash DC has extremely restrictive gun control laws and ranks #1 (by a wide margin) in the firearms death rate. In fact, DC's firearm death rate is THREE TIMES as high as VT and almost SIX TIMES as high as NH.

If highly restrictive gun control laws work, why not in DC?
Oh crap......facts.....

I think there is room for some compromise in the gun control debate, but I think gun control is no where near the root of these problems.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This time is different.....
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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And if they throw out the old "but Vermont and New Hampshire are rural states" just mention that Washington State has major cities, but with LESS GUN CRIMES than most cities. Compare Seattle, with lenient right to carry and gun laws (I carry a Glock 27) to Chicago, where you can't even own a handgun in your house legally:

Crime in Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One Washington to the other: Crime stats tell the tale - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com

Here in Seattle, we have REAL PROGRESSIVES, not liberal whiners. Real progressives support the right to bear arms and, if needs be, smoke us some fascists.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Here in Seattle, we have REAL PROGRESSIVES, not liberal whiners. Real progressives support the right to bear arms and, if needs be, smoke us some fascists.
Smoke some weed instead. Without fascists, life would be boring.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Having grown up and lived in Vermont and been in law enforcement there I can tell you that unlike Wash DC it is very rural and the cultures are very different (live in DC metro area now). There are a LOT of people with guns in Vermont that like to hunt/target shoot or just have them around. Northern New Hampshire is probably the same. (I am NOT saying that there is no crime in Vermont involving firearms, just very little). Maine is another safe state concerning crime. In some aspects it is a rural/city thing but in the instances of the mass killers I think that doesn't quite apply.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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This is pretty damning information for the knee-jerk set. But will they actually comprehend it?
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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VT has virtually NO gun control laws and ranks #34 in firearm death rate. No gun registration. No permit needed to carry. No permit needed to purchase. No license needed for rifles, shotguns or handguns, etc, etc.

New Hampshire has very few gun control laws and ranks #45. No permit to purchase. No license needed. No assault weapons ban, etc, etc.

Wash DC has extremely restrictive gun control laws and ranks #1 (by a wide margin) in the firearms death rate. In fact, DC's firearm death rate is THREE TIMES as high as VT and almost SIX TIMES as high as NH.

If highly restrictive gun control laws work, why not in DC?
Because VT and NH are states and DC is a highly populated urban area??????
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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Because VT and NH are states and DC is a highly populated urban area??????
We're talking per capita. It's irrelevant.

I don't see you all making those types of distinctions when you compare crime in America to crime in completely different countries.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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Here in Seattle, we have REAL PROGRESSIVES, not liberal whiners. Real progressives support the right to bear arms and, if needs be, smoke us some fascists.
C'mon man, everyone knows Seattle is the capital of liberal whiners even more so than even Portland and SF, so stop smoking so much of your now legal dope and posting on CityData...

Or "smoking fascists", whatever that refers to...
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