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if they did what australia did it would work, but that will never happen here with the gun culture.
This is what I think. Japan is an even better example, where there is a virtually complete gun ban. The half measures are really 'no measures.' And even draconian bans without the will and capacity to enforce are ineffectual. Mexico has a draconian ban in place, but their homicide rate is 4 times much higher than in the US.
Opinion and partisanship aside, why would we want to do stuff that does not work?
This is what I think. Japan is an even better example, where there is a virtually complete gun ban. The half measures are really 'no measures.' And even draconian bans without the will and capacity to enforce are ineffectual. Mexico has a draconian ban in place, but their homicide rate is 4 times much higher than in the US.
Opinion and partisanship aside, why would we want to do stuff that does not work?
I have been asking that same question myself. The one thing this Connecticut shooter, the Colorado shooter, and the Virgina Tech. shooter all had in common - they specifically chose gun free zones to commit their heinous acts.
If anyone was truly interested in meaningful reform, they would abolish gun free zones. They are massacre magnets. As long as gun free zones continue to exist, that is where we can expect the next massacre to occur.
As far as I am concerned these morons who created these target-rich gun free zones are as complicit in the crime as the perpetrator. With their gun free zones they are effectively sticking up a big neon sign saying "WE ARE UNARMED IDIOTS, COME SHOOT US!"
If anyone was truly interested in meaningful reform, they would abolish gun free zones. They are massacre magnets. As long as gun free zones continue to exist, that is where we can expect the next massacre to occur.
As far as I am concerned these morons who created these target-rich gun free zones are as complicit in the crime as the perpetrator. With their gun free zones they are effectively sticking up a big neon sign saying "WE ARE UNARMED IDIOTS, COME SHOOT US!"
Here we go again. I don't what the solution(s) is/are, but I know that you're part of the problem.
Here we go again. I don't what the solution(s) is/are, but I know that you're part of the problem.
Actually, I am trying to keep children alive while you are trying to get them killed with your gun free zones. So that makes you just as complicit as the murderer.
Well OP, Sen Carolyn McCarthys husband died in a tragedy from a gun nut on the LIRR. She also resided in my hometown. I would never choose to call a victim of gun violence an idiot legislator.
McCarthy's political career began because of tragedy. On a December night in 1993, a gunman boarded a Long Island Rail Road train and opened fire. McCarthy's husband was one of five killed and her only son, Kevin, was critically injured.
You didn't watch the video, did you? She introduced a law to ban 'barrel shrouds' but had no idea what that was. When asked what it was, she responded with ridiculous gobbledygook. I'm sure she's a nice lady and means well, but she is demonstrably an idiot. Keep her away from law books.
I mean well too, but you wouldn't want me working on your car engine or your taxes. Keep me away from your engine and your 1040, and keep Carolyn McCarthy away from gun legislation.
Point taken. But if you mean well, then do you support abolishing all gun free zones as the above poster? because that person CLEARLY represents a noxious agenda.
It is quite frankly disgusting.
Anyone who has witnessed, or been a victim of a violent crime would not support the NRAs agenda.
Well you the OP has proven yourself wrong with your own post. There have been no crimes comitted with legal full auto weapons so the control worked. Second if you do the same to semi autos there is no where to go but much slower actions, bolt pump lever ect. So by your own admission it will have a positive impact.
No, banning full auto guns clearly did not work. It just meant that the miscreants switched to semi auto guns. If it had worked we wouldn't be here talking about passing yet another law.
Can't blame Feinstein for wanting a CCW- she was on the scene at SF City Hall when Milk and Moscone were murdered, and took over as mayor. That doesn't make her a hypocrite, it makes her smart.
You're a democrat, aren't you. Of course it makes her a hypocrite when she tells the common person they can't carry a gun, but she's special, she needs one.
Point taken. But if you mean well, then do you support abolishing all gun free zones as the above poster? because that person CLEARLY represents a noxious agenda.
It is quite frankly disgusting.
Anyone who has witnessed, or been a victim of a violent crime would not support the NRAs agenda.
I don't see what one point has to do with the other, but I will respond. I can see a limited use for 'gun free zones.' A few years ago here in Seattle a guy pulled out a gun in a courtroom and killed his wife, a mail order bride who had basically scammed him and then beat him in court. Now courtrooms here are 'gun free zones' but, and this is key, enforced with metal detectors. If you don't have that, it is just a gun free zone for the good people. The bad guys can pack at will, leaving the good people as sitting ducks.
I am an NRA member and wound up thus precisely because I was a crime victim. Until in my early 20's I was anti-gun and believed as you probably do. After experiencing a 2AM burglary of my apartment (with me in it) I decided that a gun might be a useful tool.
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