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The only error in your analogy is that nuke dropping causes such substantial death in each instance, it's virtually impossible to draw out statistics like this with such a limited data set, given that nukes have not been around forever, and there aren't that many of them owned by that many different governments. Whereas with guns and cars, we have infinitely more reliable data to work with given their widespread existence and low rate of death per gun/car in existence.
But if everyone had a nuke, and hot dogs killed more people than nukes over a substantial period of time, then yes, the legalization of hot dogs would be not potentially, but effectively, more dangerous than the legalization of nukes.
It's more expensive and a lot harder to produce a nuclear weapon though.
It's more expensive and a lot harder to produce a nuclear weapon though.
Well yes obviously.
My point is on the difference between the effective and potential danger of the legalization or existence of something.
Ownership and rate of use depends on a number of variables (including price) which are irrelevant in the context of policy discussion. What matters realistically is the final outcome, the effective result as opposed to the potential.
If we were discussing potential, I could argue on the basis that everyone owns and a gun and a car, and was shooting their gun while crashing their car 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. That is a potential outcome, but not at all a realistic one.
It's more expensive and a lot harder to produce a nuclear weapon though.
True. But it's really cheap to make effective firearms from parts you can buy at the hardware store. Anyone interested in banning staplers, pipe and latches?
True. But it's really cheap to make effective firearms from parts you can buy at the hardware store. Anyone interested in banning staplers, pipe and latches?
Forget firearms, a bow and arrow can be good enough.
Once one innocent person dies, it doesn't matter how many more die, the tragedy has already happened.
That's stupid. Obviously it matters. One person dying is bad and unfortunate; twenty six or more people dying is even worse, not "the same." And it's enabled by a semi-automatic rifle with a large-capacity magazine.
We do not have an abnormally high sword violence epidemic in this country. We do have an abnormally high gun violence epidemic. You could tell that for yourself if you actually looked at some data. But we already saw your statistical reasoning abilities in that other thread, so maybe you should just leave that to others after all.
I can't believe I have to state the obvious, but apparently some gun nuts have a mental block about the difference between cars and guns.
Cars=DESIGNED to save lives and be productive to society, economy, etc.
Guns=DESIGNED to kill people and destroy the lives of those around them
Using a car properly as designed = no deaths
Using a gun properly as designed = death
Cars= REQUIRES testing, medical clearance (eye exam) and annual registration every single year
Guns= Can get one at a gun show with NO background check, no medical exam, no annual renewal
Cars= become SAFER with each new technological innovation (a good thing)
Guns= become MORE DANGEROUS with each new technical innovation (bad)
Cars= not being used as a weapon every week/month to kill mass amounts of innocent people
Guns= being used with increasing regularity to kill mass amounts of innocent people
Guns=DESIGNED to kill people and destroy the lives of those around them
Swords=DESIGNED to kill people and destroy the lives of those around them
Using a gun properly as designed = death
Using a sword properly as designed = death
Guns= Can get one at a gun show with NO background check, no medical exam, no annual renewal
Swords=can be purchased anywhere by anyone...
Guns=DESIGNED to kill people and destroy the lives of those around them
Swords=DESIGNED to kill people and destroy the lives of those around them
Using a gun properly as designed = death
Using a sword properly as designed = death
Guns= Can get one at a gun show with NO background check, no medical exam, no annual renewal
Swords=can be purchased anywhere by anyone...
Need I go on?
Yes, you DO need to go on because you conveniently left out my final point about guns being used in increasing instances of MASS murder. If swords were being used to kill 10,000 Americans per year, then yes, they should be regulated as well.
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