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View Poll Results: Do you support an executive order to ban assault weapons? If not, would you protest the order in def
Yes, I support an executive order to ban assault weapons 68 32.54%
No, I do not support an executive order to ban assault weapons 51 24.40%
No, I do not support an executive order and will protest Obama's signature if he signs one 90 43.06%
Voters: 209. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-18-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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You're overlooking that he had a gun before he killed someone. I haven't heard any evidence presented suggesting he killed to get weapons.

This was yet another case of guns in the home being used to kill their owner or other family members, but this one went tragically far, far beyond that.

The public cannot be trusted with guns....that is beyond debate. And to answer your poll question, I support any and all means of banning assault weapons. This is a national emergency, cryin' out loud.
No. It's not a national emergency. It's a sensationalized and exploited tragedy to promote a long standing, orwellian agenda.

Any and all means, huh?
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Geez, we just got though beating back the RWNJ's, and now we have to deal with the gun nuts too!! But at least they'll be easier to track...
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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To those who vote no, you all have blood on your hands.

What if it was your child in Newtown?
nope

the blood is with liberals, who pushed for years to close institutions that hold the menatlly ill


this kid should have been committed years ago

but liberals have pushed to close mental institutions/sanitariums because they want to call them "in-humane"
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I support the OPPOSITE of what Republicans want. When Republicans are happy, the country is worse off.

If this incredible President issues an executive order in light of the massacre of those kids, I am completely in support of it. Assault weapons should be banned.
too bad an assault weapon was NOT used

a bushmaster SEMI-automatic 22 rifle is NOT an assault weapon

an assault weapon is FULLY automatic...like an UZI....and they are already severly restricted
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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If anything is to be banned it has to be an operation of law, which is the domain of the legislative branch not the executive.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My answer is: No. First of all, it won't happen. But, more importantly, there is no point in just banning assault weapons.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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Is such an executive order even legal?
No, it is blatantly unconstitutional.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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nope

the blood is with liberals, who pushed for years to close institutions that hold the menatlly ill


this kid should have been committed years ago

but liberals have pushed to close mental institutions/sanitariums because they want to call them "in-humane"
you realize locking people up for mental illness is mostly done with a purely subjective diagnosis?
It's not like there is a blood test or an X-ray to determine mental illness.
Sounds like you want to entrust the same government who seeks to control/restrict gun ownership, with the task of determining who is mentally "well"
Joe Stalin, Mao, et al. did both with reasonable success.

You really cant rail against one and endorse the other without a certain amount of hypocrisy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That would be a law I will not follow and will defend against any law enforcement trying to forciblly take those guns. There is a limit to my patience against liberal fools thinking they can take advantage of a crisis.
Er...conservatives/knee jerks re: ...patriot act, iraq invasion, domestic spying, Guantanamo bay, water boarding, homeland security...just to name a few.

Hyperbole much?
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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you realize locking people up for mental illness is mostly done with a purely subjective diagnosis?
It's not like there is a blood test or an X-ray to determine mental illness.
Sounds like you want to entrust the same government who seeks to control/restrict gun ownership, with the task of determining who is mentally "well"
Joe Stalin, Mao, et al. did both with reasonable success.

You really cant rail against one and endorse the other without a certain amount of hypocrisy.
the point is if someone is mentall unstable.. and a danger to society..then they should be put in a place for protection

this started under CARTER....and was the liberals in congress that states institutions was ""in-humane""


Early 1980's: the liberal congress directed the Social Security Administration to pare the SSI and SSDI rolls. Social Security administrators responded by developing definitions of mental illness that diverged from those used in the past and those employed by mental health professionals. The resulting dislocations ultimately produced a public outcry that compelled the administration and Social Security to back down.
1981: The 1981 the Democrat controlled congress passed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act which repealed the provisions of the National Mental Health Systems Act, cut federal mental health and substance abuse allocations by twenty-five percent, and converted them to block grants disbursed with few strings attached. New York State, which used block-grant monies to fund community-based programs, and other states have to cut mental health programs.

1979 in Texas and around the country, state governments got this brilliant idea to close the state hospitals for being "inhumane" in favor of opening neighborhood outpatient centers. What they really wanted to do was take that money and blow it on their pet projects. All neighborhoods said not in our backyard. So you have mental patients on the street. Which incidentally indirectly affected Reagan personally when John Hinckley shot him.

Mayor Dianne Feinstein (now a us senator) gathered religious leaders together in 1982 to discuss a shocking wave of homeless people on city streets.

The solution, they thought, was to temporarily set up cots and soup kitchens in a few church basements.

What they didn't realize then was they faced the genesis of a generational crisis brought on by complicated social factors out of their control.

At the time, Feinstein said, she thought homelessness was only a temporary problem, and the solution was to provide short-term housing. Her attention was also split with the emerging AIDS epidemic.
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its like when you hear about the so-called ""AUTISM EPEDEMIC"""...prior to 1985 most childhoold autism was classified as """juvenile schitzipherenia"""(forgive my spelling) and retarded.....the percent of kids with (using an old outdated term) retardation/mental incompacity/autism has stayed mostly level...the difference is that instead of having 3 JS, 1 AUT, 6 retards (10 kids) out of 1000....now its just 10 autism/asperger out of 1000 (1 in 100)

the same with in the 80's when the liberals have many of the institutions closed because it was 'inhumane' to lock these people up....now they are the growing population of HOMELESS (85% of homeless at mentally ill).
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The problem with the mentally ill is that there really isn't some magic drug or treatment plan that will cure them all. They might decide they don't like some side effect of the drugs they were given and stop taking them. Or they might decide they like some of the street drugs better or in addition and make themselves worse.
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