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Murders are at all time lows. As is all violent crime. As is non-violent crime. STD infections are at or near all time lows. Teenage pregnancy is at an all time low. Dropout rates are all time lows.
Tell me again how society is going to hell in a handbasket?
God hasn't been thrown out completely by the secular progressives.....
BTW..getting off subject for the moment...if thats true...then why do we need gun control..
Without a superior being...no one would be able to legislate morality...my morality could be different than yours...and neither one of us could say to each other your morals are wrong! So if i wanted to kill you..so what..no moral absolutes
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Originally Posted by jjrose
You can't legislate morality now.
Prohibition was used to legislate morality, it didn't work.
The war on drugs is used to legislate morality, it does not work.
Laws against abortion were used to legislate morality, they didn't work.
We can only make laws to punish those that harm others, it won't change their morality.
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Originally Posted by Mr.XXX
Exactly...That's what eventually happens when you throw out GOD from society..Total moral implosion..followed by dictatorship...
OKAY.
I hope you know that the MOST religious countries are by far the worst countries to live in.
"In 2005, a survey conducted by Gallup International in sixty-five countries indicated that Norway was the least religious country in Western Europe, with 29% counting themselves as believing in a church or deity, 26% as being atheists, and 45% not being entirely certain.[20] Religion in Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
how did we oppress homosexuals..except trying to change their life style...
Mr. XXX I can respect what you say to a degree but I think your thinking on the subject is wrong from a Christian perspective. It's not up to me as a Christian to change anyone's life by any means other than by preaching the good news and living my own life as an example of what I'm preaching. This in it's self does not change lives but God uses it as His method for changing lives.
Changing lives is God's work, not mine. God uses what Paul called, "The nonsence of preaching" to convict people of their need for salvation and God then uses His Sovereign Power to REGENERATE that person. That person then comes to a saving faith and the lifelong process of scantification begins.
If the conversion is a true conversion and the person really has become a Christian then the Holy spirit works in the believers life making the person more and more Christlike as time rolls on.
There is a big problem in the church today because of a lack of understanding on the entire subject of SIN. This lack of understanding can cause many Christians to become puffed up with PRIDE and begin to think that they are actually better in themselves than other WORSE sinners.
The truth of the matter is that all humankind became "Totally depraved" in the sight of a Holy God as a result of Adam's fall from grace in the garden. That is Man's fundamental problem. Sin touches us at all of our points and even the very best we can do is completely without any merit at all in God's sight. This fact is the great equilizer. We are all sinners, every single one of us. Our sin is just a matter of degree and even that is not of ourselves but an example of the "Restraining Grace" of God.
All of us Christians are sinners. The difference between us and the unsaved is we are sinners "Saved by Grace". I did absolutely nothing to merit this grace. It's all of God and none of myself and I have nothing at all to brag about or be proud of. If I condemn any sinner, what I'm really doing is condemning myself because outside of what God has done for me that was unmerited I'm exactly the same as they are.
The correct understanding of the doctrine of sin allows me to be compassionate and loving toward the unsaved. It also causes me to be unjudgemental because if the understanding that I'm blessed by God dispite the fact that I'm a sinner just like the rest of humanity but saved by God's special favour, "Grace"
Mr. XXX I can respect what you say to a degree but I think your thinking on the subject is wrong from a Christian perspective. It's not up to me as a Christian to change anyone's life by any means other than by preaching the good news and living my own life as an example of what I'm preaching. This in it's self does not change lives but God uses it as His method for changing lives.
Changing lives is God's work, not mine. God uses what Paul called, "The nonsence of preaching" to convict people of their need for salvation and God then uses His Sovereign Power to REGENERATE that person. That person then comes to a saving faith and the lifelong process of scantification begins.
If the conversion is a true conversion and the person really has become a Christian then the Holy spirit works in the believers life making the person more and more Christlike as time rolls on.
There is a big problem in the church today because of a lack of understanding on the entire subject of SIN. This lack of understanding can cause many Christians to become puffed up with PRIDE and begin to think that they are actually better in themselves than other WORSE sinners.
The truth of the matter is that all humankind became "Totally depraved" in the sight of a Holy God as a result of Adam's fall from grace in the garden. That is Man's fundamental problem. Sin touches us at all of our points and even the very best we can do is completely without any merit at all in God's sight. This fact is the great equilizer. We are all sinners, every single one of us. Our sin is just a matter of degree and even that is not of ourselves but an example of the "Restraining Grace" of God.
All of us Christians are sinners. The difference between us and the unsaved is we are sinners "Saved by Grace". I did absolutely nothing to merit this grace. It's all of God and none of myself and I have nothing at all to brag about or be proud of. If I condemn any sinner, what I'm really doing is condemning myself because outside of what God has done for me that was unmerited I'm exactly the same as they are.
The correct understanding of the doctrine of sin allows me to be compassionate and loving toward the unsaved. It also causes me to be unjudgemental because if the understanding that I'm blessed by God dispite the fact that I'm a sinner just like the rest of humanity but saved by God's special favour, "Grace"
Honduras, more violent crime, more poor, more child labor, higher maternal and infant mortality rates.
Yep, I know where I would want to live.
That's like me asking you...Would you rather live in North Korea or Honduras..
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