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Old 12-19-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Gun bans have been tried. The mass shootings have continued.

"Assault weapons" bans have been tried. The mass murders have gone on unabated, and even gotten worse.

Waiting periods have been tried. Background checks have been tried. Bans on the mentally incompetent have been tried. None have had the slightest effect. Unqualified individuals such as the CT shooter and the Aurora theater shooter, have had no trouble getting guns anyway, and blowing away whomever they wanted.

Now that President Obama has turned responsibility for "doing something about it" over to Joe Biden, will we finally see the government try something else? Some thihng that has a reasonable chance of at least reducing, if not completely stopping, these mass murders?

Or will we just get more of the same tired, failed schemes - "Assault weapons" bans, gun bans, waiting periods etc. that have accomplished nothing?

Biden knows how ineffectual these tired schemes have been. If he resorts to them anyway, we have to wonder why. It would be a clear signal that he has no intention of reducing these mass murders.

What IS his intention, then?
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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Gun bans have been tried. The mass shootings have continued.

"Assault weapons" bans have been tried. The mass murders have gone on unabated, and even gotten worse.

Waiting periods have been tried. Background checks have been tried. Bans on the mentally incompetent have been tried. None have had the slightest effect. Unqualified individuals such as the CT shooter and the Aurora theater shooter, have had no trouble getting guns anyway, and blowing away whomever they wanted.

Now that President Obama has turned responsibility for "doing something about it" over to Joe Biden, will we finally see the government try something else? Some thihng that has a reasonable chance of at least reducing, if not completely stopping, these mass murders?

Or will we just get more of the same tired, failed schemes - "Assault weapons" bans, gun bans, waiting periods etc. that have accomplished nothing?

Biden knows how ineffectual these tired schemes have been. If he resorts to them anyway, we have to wonder why. It would be a clear signal that he has no intention of reducing these mass murders.

What IS his intention, then?
No, I'm sure he'll do a GREAT job with this. After all, he was "in charge" of the stimulus. And we all know how well that went.....
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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It worked in Australia, despite what shrill, loony, bug-eyed teabaggers say otherwise.

Ronald Reagan supported the assault weapons ban, which means he's now a liberal I guess.

Conservatism is a mental disorder.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It worked in Australia,
And failed abjectly in Germany, Scotland, England, Russia, Norway, and the United States time and again.

Only a liberal (did somebody mention "loony, bug-eyed"? ) would consider a one-out-of-ten record, a "success" that should be duplicated.

As I asked in the above post: Obviously such people do NOT have the reduction of mass shootings, as their goal.

What, then, IS their goal?
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Will Biden simply push the same "gun control" that has failed repeatedly in the past to prevent mass shootings?
The "same gun control" bill is not the same gun control bill at all. The new bill proposed has been refined and more clearly defines the long list of various guns that would be exempted. This should make gun supporters happy, to have the ambiguity taken out of the equation.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Biden tapped again

Joe Biden now must have a full plate being in charge of spending and now Gun control discussion. JB is spread too thin.

How is Biden doing overseeing spending?
OBAMA PUTS BIDEN IN CHARGE OF STIMULUS FUNDS - NYPOST.com
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The "same gun control" bill is not the same gun control bill at all. The new bill proposed has been refined and more clearly defines the long list of various guns that would be exempted. This should make gun supporters happy, to have the ambiguity taken out of the equation.
In other words, it is the same tired ploy that has been tried before, and failed completely. The Columbine shootings occurred while the old "Assault weapons ban" was in force. This "new" bill is nothing more than the same old thing, only more so.

And all these mass murderers do, is violate these laws you think will make us all safer - a concept that seem foreign to our paranoid, gun-hating friends.

Why do you insist on repeating a scheme that resulted in more and more mass shootings? What, exactly, is your agenda?
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Barack isn't the divider, you ambivalent white people are. Half of you do something that half of you hate and everyone blames the guiltless. I wish to Dog that you people would get your act together and act like one race. One culture. One ideology. That isn't so hard you know. The truth isn't that hard to discern. Time and time again.... no matter the issue... half of you can be counted on to come down on the contrarian viewpoint. Time and time again, the viewpoint that has the least viability that is the one that the Conservatives will back. Tell me with a straight face that Obama could completely ignore the cold blooded murder of 20 first graders. A Conservative could. In fact. Several already have.

I can ignore it. This is a LOCAL POLICE issue and I am not related to any of the victims or their families. I don't want the Federal government dragging me into it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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So the coward in Chief doesnt want to tackle the issue head on himself.. Nice..
Well, you know, between golf and vacations, there's only so much time....
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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That's like getting Dan Quayle to monitor a spelling bee.
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