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Old 12-19-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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If it is a privilege granted by government to bear arms, or type of arms, then it is in the power of government to ERADICATE that privilege.

If it is a right that existed BEFORE government, which was instituted to SECURE RIGHTS, then government has no delegated power to ERADICATE, REGULATE, RESTRICT or INFRINGE that right.

Can't have it both ways.

Either it's a RIGHT secured, or it is a PRIVILEGE denied.

 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why is it that right wingers never seem able to count higher than two?

Those are not the only options.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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It is a natural right protected by the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

As we all know, the feds pay no attention to said document, so that wont stop them from overstepping their bounds and attempting to implement a "ban" on something simply because it looks scary.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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It is a natural right protected by the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
What's a "natural" right?
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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What's a "natural" right?
One everyone is born with, not given to the people by a government, or some invisible sky zombie.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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What's a "natural" right?
Natural and legal rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Start here, then read up on John Locke.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why is it that right wingers never seem able to count higher than two?

Those are not the only options.


Care to elaborate?
Naw... Didn't think so. Troll and run along.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Care to elaborate?
Sure.

There are an infinite number of positions on the continuum in between those two options.

Need more hand holding? Need your nose wiped too?
 
Old 12-19-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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No one or the Federal government is suggesting a total ban on guns. Why is that hard to understand?

The NRA members talk a big game like they have the right to bear nuclear warheads.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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What's a "natural" right?


May as well ask - Who is George Washington? -

The same right that allows you to remain a citizen despite this abject level of ignorance with respect to the formation of the basic principles of the US Constitutional government. The only flaw in the Constitution was the perversion of John Locke's natural rights "Life Liberty and Property".


John Locke: Natural Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property : The Freeman : Foundation for Economic Education
Thomas Jefferson ranked Locke, along with Locke’s compatriot Algernon Sidney, as the most important thinkers on liberty. Locke helped inspire Thomas Paine’s radical ideas about revolution. Locke fired up George Mason. From Locke, James Madison drew his most fundamental principles of liberty and government. Locke’s writings were part of Benjamin Franklin’s self-education, and John Adams believed that both girls and boys should learn about Locke. The French philosopher Voltaire called Locke “the man of the greatest wisdom. What he has not seen clearly, I despair of ever seeing.”

These principles from the Scottish enlightenment are the foundation of our government.
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