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Old 12-21-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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They just can't grasp the concept.

If laws stopped crime, why do we have police departments and judges and District Attorneys?
Boy, you can't argue with this logic.




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Old 12-21-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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LOL moronic post of the year award... Have you ever heard of magazines? Even limiting the size of a magazine to 10 rounds, wouldn't stop this.

You can't stop a lunatic from killing if he's intent on it.

You can limit how easy it is for him to carry out his plan.

If he had a bolt action rifle with an 8 round clip he would not have been able to kill 26 people. Period. He was not a trained army sniper or a ninja. You know it and so does everyone else, massacres of this magnitude are only possible due to high capacity semi automatic weapons. .
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: NC
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You can't stop a lunatic from killing if he's intent on it.

You can limit how easy it is for him to carry out his plan.

If he had a bolt action rifle with an 8 round clip he would not have been able to kill 26 people. Period. He was not a trained army sniper or a ninja. You know it and so does everyone else, massacres of this magnitude are only possible due to high capacity semi automatic weapons. .
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CLIP FOR A BOLT ACTION RIFLE. Have you ever even physically held a gun?


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Old 12-21-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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No genius, if you have a militant opposition to gun control laws for semi-automatic weapons with high capacity detachable magazines because you get excited about such weapons, you have a gun fetish.


"It must be tough being as stupid as you are".

dman72, 2012
Than GOD I don't have to live my life following what you believe in in your fantasy world.

"You can't reason with an unreasonable person", and you certainly fit the bill.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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It's apparent that gun nuts want one thing: more guns. That is the answer to everything.

It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents
have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CLIP FOR A BOLT ACTION RIFLE. Have you ever even physically held a gun?

Yeah, my dad had a 22 in the house.

I'm not interested in whether my lingo is correct or not. It's irrelevant. A gun that can fire thirty rounds and had another 30 available in seconds should not be in the hands of the public. That's the point, not how everyone who discusses the subject knows every term used by people who play with guns on a regular basis. It doesn't change the validity of the argument one iota.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, my dad had a 22 in the house.

I'm not interested in whether my lingo is correct or not. It's irrelevant. A gun that can fire thirty rounds and had another 30 available in seconds should not be in the hands of the public. That's the point, not how everyone who discusses the subject knows every term used by people who play with guns on a regular basis. It doesn't change the validity of the argument one iota.
And there you have it folks. They don't care and may not even know...just BAN THE DAMN GUNS.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NC
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Yeah, my dad had a 22 in the house.

I'm not interested in whether my lingo is correct or not. It's irrelevant. A gun that can fire thirty rounds and had another 30 available in seconds should not be in the hands of the public. That's the point, not how everyone who discusses the subject knows every term used by people who play with guns on a regular basis. It doesn't change the validity of the argument one iota.

Yes it does. You don't even know what you are talking about. Completely ignorant.

So you are a hypocrite? Nice.... So your family is allowed to have a gun for protection, but others cannot?

If someone broke into your dad's house to rob them, would you feel an instinct to protect them using that 22 or lay down and be killed, raped, maimed, or injured by the robber?


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Old 12-21-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents
have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.
1 is dismissed by looking at European countries with strict gun laws. Yet you'll repeat it ad infinitum.

2 is again the argument that since you can't stop all crimes, you shouldn't have any laws. Gun control laws don't purport that they will stop all crimes, the point is making it much more difficult for criminals and mad men to obtain weapons.

2 ridiculous and false arguments, that were just dismissed wholesale by anyone with a logical mind,....but you'll be back with them in another post on another thread in a short time, I'm sure.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It is not "politicizing" an event to say that we need stricter gun controls..


But when sensible people point out that so-called "gun control" laws have completely failed to curb these mass shootings, suddenly the leftists are whining how horrible it is that the shootings are being "politicized".
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