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Just went to China in April for 3 weeks. Loved every minute of it. Didn't see any sweatshops and the history, museums, and culture were outstanding. I kicked myself for only staying such a short time.
The factories and the dorms for the workers who live in them are usually in remote areas away from tourist areas. They do exist.
It's not as black-and-white or cut-and-dried as people would like things to be. There are terrible human-rights abuses going on in China. There is also a huge capitalistic segment of society--making money is the number-one concentration of a lot of the Chinese. My daughter was living there (Chengdu) last year and said she never saw so much greed and desire to be rich as she did in China. If you have money, you walk into a restaurant and order tons of food you cannot possibly eat just to show off how rich you are, and then leave the food on the table and walk away.
People are people and the same wherever you go.
The other thing that surprised my daughter was how many Americans have made China their home. They own restaurants, night clubs, etc. Also, there are approximately 12,000 American students studying in China every year.
china prolly has the best labor protection laws in the developing world. this is most likely a hoax.
If they do, they certainly refuse to enforce them.
News about how horribly that country treats it's people is common in reputable publications. They certainly have a burgeoning capitalist class, like Russia - but they are also notorious for their corruption, often not by the organizations that run the cities, but rural villages. There have been so many specials on tv about their polluted water from industrial runoff, corrupt officials, the solving of suicides by nets around buildings. Remember all those dead children and their parents crying in the streets because some bureaucrat accepted shoddy work from the guy who constructed the schoolhouse?
China has a nice facade in the tourist areas, but that is built on a hell hole of rural and factory life.
That exhibit of dead human bodies making its way around the world from China was found to be often those of prisoners and not people who just died of natural causes. How could anyone who knows anything of that country say good things of it? It's a nightmare.
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This is what NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status brought to the world.
Thank you, Bill Clinton. Ross Perot was right, and most American voters laughed at him. Keep in mind, however, that American voters just re-elected Obama as well.
Ross Perot came into being because both the Republicans and Democrats in this country are pushing some of the same agendas regarding interdependent international trade and the free movement of alien populations in and out of countries (meaning cheap labor). The Libertarians are just as bad.
It is a hoax. Sweatshops is a step on the road to progress. It beats dumpster diving, or in poor countries landfill scavenging. Sweatshops are a good thing.
I know a gal who immigrated from China. She was a banker there. After ten years in this country her written English is still lacking compared to that note by a sweatshop worker. What will be the next BS post?
BS post, is right.
It is very common that people who learn a language can write it better than speaking it. VERY common. I worked for a foriegn company and saw this first hand.
How are some people excusing this away?
It's just nuts.
YOU cannot stop doing business with them PERIOD. They own your azz.
Who do you think has been buying your debt and financing your stupid fiasco in Iraq?
After you go over that fiscal cliff and debt rating agencies take your dollar into the crapper along with your ability to print greenbacks to service your debt, guess what happens then???? They among others will likely cut their losses and call for the reserve currency to be something OTHER than the USD. Oooh brother; you think times are tough now?
You ain't seen nothing yet and that goes double for your absolute necessity to do business with China
There is some room for compromise here, like decent working hours, clean water and air, fairer and more open treatment of prisoners, maybe eventually not eating dogs.
Goldengrain, yikes re: chinese food/dog story -are u in ny
If americans could they should boycott all purchases from sweatshops, the problem is you have to really research what you are buying, i.e. furniture, home improvements, etc.
now wal-mart is a given, naturally.
The Chinese dog incidents were in New Jersey. I have not purchased Won Ton for quite a while. I've lost my taste for it. They are thick noodle and the meat is ground into a paste and smeared on. I swear that story is true. It makes me so sad.
You tell them; they're still around and some are flourishing today with using nothing more than their bravery to foment resistance. You won't find bravery at the butt end of any gun fella.
While we're on this topic; just where do you think the bulk of the weapons used to enslave some entire countries came from? Who do you think trained the Shah of Irans torturer's? Why is it, do you suppose, the Iranians of today have such a hard-on for you folks? Care to guess?
A lot of people on the planet have organized rebellions without having the arms to go up against the arms you provided their oppressors and yet you refuse to take any lesson away from that.
You don't need guns, you just need the will and no other choice. The guns will come last.
Exactly. And anyone who thinks they have the "right" to bear arms will continue to have that right should a government decide to turn on it's people are fooling themselves! An oppressive government will take away all of your rights no matter what a piece of paper says. That's what pro-2nd amendment folks don't get. You think if the US decides to turn on it's people, it's going to say, "Now, now, just wait there folks. We can't do this to Americans. It's says right there (pointing to Bill of Rights) that they have the right to firearms." Bull****.
whether note was a hoax or not, sweatshops need to be boycotted
We bought a dining room set for over 18k a few years ago. Turn it over, made in Malaysia. Pure junk as the cherry wood was poorly crafted
Americans need to stop buying garbage. Will it ever happen?
alot of those sweatshops also utilize human trafficking. It is a disgrace.
I am greatly disturbed by the content of the letter and the re-education camps. Americans (or any other country that uses many of the same products) will not stop buying items. This year, I made a concerted effort to buy local. For the adults in my life, it was fairly easy but I also wasn't buying electronics or other similar items. For kids? No way could I shop local. I couldn't find one place that sold children's toys made in America, let alone locally. If I had, that's where I would have shopped.
I just think the idea of "don't buy from them!" is not feasible. All of us have computers here. Where were they made?
YOU cannot stop doing business with them PERIOD. They own your azz.
Who do you think has been buying your debt and financing your stupid fiasco in Iraq?
After you go over that fiscal cliff and debt rating agencies take your dollar into the crapper along with your ability to print greenbacks to service your debt, guess what happens then???? They among others will likely cut their losses and call for the reserve currency to be something OTHER than the USD. Oooh brother; you think times are tough now?
You ain't seen nothing yet and that goes double for your absolute necessity to do business with China
Really? And if this country falls into the black hole, how long do you think it will be before Canada and Europe fall also? Canada has one of the highest costs of living in the world because of your crappy health care. Believe me, you are right behind us.
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.lol
Get off your pedestal. You spend money on stuff you don't need as well. 
