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Old 10-30-2013, 12:18 PM
 
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I could spend an hour writing reasons that debunk this argument, but if you had simply posted the entire list, that would have done it for me LOL. You actually already did that by saying that the top states are energy states.

The Best and Worst Run States in America: A Survey of All 50 - 24/7 Wall St.

1. North Dakota(R controlled)
2. Wyoming ( R Controlled)
3. Nebraska(non partisian unicarmil legislature)
4. Utah ( R Controlled)
5. Iowa( by the way, Secretary of Ag. Tom Vilsack ran this state til 2009 and the current Legislature make up is Dems hold the senate, Republicans hold the house)
6. Alaska ( R Controlled)
7. South Dakota (R Controlled)
8. Vermont(democrat controlled)
9. Virginia (Republican controlled, but Senate tied 20/20)
10. Minnesota( D gov, R H & S)
11. Delaware (Democrat controlled)
12. Tennessee( Republican controlled)
13. Texas( Republican controlled
14. New Hampshire ( Democrat controlled)
15. Kansas ( Republican controlled, was run by current S of HHS Kathleem Sebelius)
16. Washington( Democrat controlled
17. Oregon (Democrat controlled, but house tied 30/30)
18. Montana( Dem Gov, R H&S)
19. Massachusetts ( Democrat controlled
20. Pennsylvania (Republican controlled, first time in like 10 years)
21. Wisconsin (R controlled)
22. Idaho ( R controlled)
23. Indiana ( R controlled)
24. West Virginia (D Controlled)
25. Missouri ( R Controlled
26. Maryland ( D Controlled)
27. North Carolina ( R Controlled)
28. Alabama (R controlled, in its 2nd recession in 3 years, how is it #28 ????)
29. Colorado (Dem controlled)
30. Ohio ( R Controlled)
31. Michigan (R Controlled)
32. Arkansas (R Controlled)
33. Oklahoma ( R Controlled
34. Georgia ( R Controlled)
35. Maine (R G, D H&S)
36. Connecticut (D controlled)
37. Kentucky ( R Controlled )
38. Hawaii ( D Controlled)
39. New York ( D Gov, R Senate, D House)
40. Mississippi ( R controlled)
41. Louisiana ( R controlled)
42. Florida ( R Controlled)
43. South Carolina ( R Controlled)
44. New Mexico (R gov, D H&S)
45. Nevada (R gov, D H&S)
46. New Jersey ( R gov, D H&S)
47. Arizona ( R Controlled)
48. Illinois ( D Controlled
49. Rhode Island ( D controlled)
50. California ( D Controlled)

the link itself goes into more details, but its obvious those states arent at the top just because they are run by republicans. If it was, then there wouldnt be so much interchanging in the middle, it would be all R's at the top and all Dems at the bottom.
Did anyone notice there are no people in the top ten states! Only cornfields, moose, and cattle?
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Don't give the Democrats more ideas.
They already get all the fed help they need, they are called subsidies to big agribusiness. GOPS only pretend they don't need government money.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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Another commonality of those at the top of the list is the amount of federal money they receive compared to the taxes they send Washington. All those small states get more federal money than they pay,

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ng-charts-maps
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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That was quite a list, posted....but here is a query. Since you hate liberalism and "socialism" and are so sure it doesn't work.........Name even one successful, small government, conservative country? I have been asking that question on city data for over two years and yet no one can come up with an answer. How odd is that?
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Did anyone notice there are no people in the top ten states! Only cornfields, moose, and cattle?
No people?

Who are the individuals flocking to North Dakota to work in the oil fields - Klingons?

As Mr. Spock would say - you are highly illogical.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Another commonality of those at the top of the list is the amount of federal money they receive compared to the taxes they send Washington. All those small states get more federal money than they pay,

Most Red States Take More Money From Washington Than They Put In | Mother Jones
But not because they're moochers. It's because the Federal Government spends money there (on stuff like national parks, military bases, department of energy, etc.) and the fact that rich people (our primary taxpayers) live in big, blue cities. And Nebraska pays more than they get back.

Public assistance rate of these top 5 states:
ND - #34
WY - #41
NE - #35
UT - #26
IA - #37

This 'red state welfare' thing has been debunked countless times. Blue states are net payers because the rich people Liberals love to hate live in their states and pay the lion's share of Federal income taxes.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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The causal correlation appears to actually be that states with low populations and few cities are better run than those with high populations and large cities.

And that's primarily because they're easier to run.
Nonsense.

Anyone who's lived in rural areas and the city, knows exactly the opposite is true.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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All you have to do is look at CA
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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No people?

Who are the individuals flocking to North Dakota to work in the oil fields - Klingons?

As Mr. Spock would say - you are highly illogical.
NO ONE is "flocking" to North Dakota! Getting stuck having to work in an oil field in the middle of nowhere, with the worst weather in the country not even near where anyone in their right mind would live if they didn't have to and even the sun doesn't dare to shine ....isn't exactly an exodus INTO North Dakota. Excuse the run-on sentence!
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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NO ONE is "flocking" to North Dakota! Getting stuck having to work in an oil field in the middle of nowhere, with the worst weather in the country not even near where anyone in their right mind would live if they didn't have to and even the sun doesn't dare to shine ....isn't exactly an exodus INTO North Dakota. Excuse the run-on sentence!
People aren't stuck working in the oil field - they voluntarily choose to do so - often because the job pays well.

Have you been listening to Creedence Clearwater Revival today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mftV3uIKzSA
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