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200 million people are not going to come forward and register guns in this manner. How do you register a gun with no serial number? Even if this started today it would take two hundred years or more to cycle out the existing guns that have never been documented.
If a gun doesn't have a serial number, it should be taken out of the system.
So you don't see that when you give in to politicians on something like gun control, even in a few areas they will be after you from other areas soon? You don't see why progressives want to get the guns from the hands of everybody else will make them feel it is easier for them to do other things in taking away our rights?
Progressive = the humane thing to do. Why do you fear that word? It is the opposite of "regressive" as in old hat, does not work anymore, is fearful, does not care about others' safety, etc. Regressive can also imply ignorant, as in ignoring others' needs and refusal to compromise. What "democracy" do you live in?
I'll agree to a ten round detachable magazine limit if those that are ready owned are grandfathered and new ones made will be law enforcement marked only and not sold outside if the 1934 act is repealed and general citizens can buy and own full auto firearms without registering because a 10 round limit won;t make a difference anyway full auto or not right?
I'll agree to a fee for firearms sales going to mental health care if the same fee is applied to movie and music sales.
I'll agree to a more stringent mental health check being or waiting period made if all registry of owners weapons are banned.
I'll agree to gun free zones if the 2nd amendment is amended to include the words " the right to own a pistol, rifle or shotgun of any kind is a individual right for the citizen"
Let me start off by saying that I am definately pro gun, an NRA member { proudly } and strongly believe in a law abiding citizens right to keep and bear arms.What I came up with would be considered far too radical in most pro gun circles, but I would be fine with it along with a fair amount of other gun owners I think. I also want it to be clear that the recent shooting in Newtown are not what prompted me to consider what types of reform would be acceptable, I have had these views for some time now.
1.} Create a National Firearms Registry that would link the serial # of all guns to their lawful purchasers identity.
Never going to happen, and no self-respecting NRA member would ever consider making such a moronic suggestion.
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2.} Regulate the "secondary market" of firearms sales and purchases by requiring that ALL gun sales have a mandatory background check performed by a licensed Federal Firearms dealer, along with a transfer of ownership in the national registry. So basically, if someone wants to sell someone else a gun, they would both have to go to a licensed FFL where a background check on the purchaser can be performed, and a transfer of ownership form can be filed so that the newly created national firearms registry can be updated to show that that specific firearm now has a new owner, releasing the previous owner from any and all responsibility for it.
What this would help with is the illegal gun trafficking that goes on in this country. It would also make the lawful purchaser of any firearm more accountable to where the gun ends up after the initial purchase, all the while helping to prevent criminals from obtaining guns through private transactions.
Only a fool would register any weapon.
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3.}Define what mental issues should diaqualify someone from purchasing a firearm. From there, make it so that someones mental health status pops up during the background check
How about disqualifying anyone who proposes registering firearms from owning a firearm. Obviously they are too stupid to even consider giving them a loaded firearm if they think it is a good idea to give government a complete list of every firearm they own.
Or better yet, lets what define mental issues should disqualify someone from expressing their freedom of speech. After all, we would not want someone yelling out "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, would we?
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4.} Limiting the amount of ammo a magazine can hold, mandating all but one firearm be in a locked safe, preventing people who have the mentaly ill living with them from purchasing a firearm or providing more strict restrictions for those individuals, etc. are all possible concessions.
Limiting the amount of ammunition magazines can hold worked out really well at Columbine, did it not?
I would have to say that fanatical anti-gun freaks who pretend that they are NRA members should be on top of the list of those who are classified as mentally ill.
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5.} Make gun laws across the country more uniformed. Too often guns found to be illegaly posessed in one area or state were actually legally purchased in another state.l
Typical liberal anti-gun fanatic knee-jerk unconstitutional reaction - "WE NEED MORE GOVERNMENT!"
Every federal law pertaining to firearms since, and including, the National Firearms Act of 1934 should be abolished. The Tenth Amendment gives the States the authority to regulate firearms. Only the Commerce Clause gives Congress the authority to regulate firearms, and only if they are involved in international or interstate commerce. If a firearm is manufactured, sold, possessed and used wholly within a given State, Congress has no authority over that firearm and no federal law concerning firearms applies to such weapons.
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6.}Pass a national Right-to-carry law at the federal level which would pre-empt all state laws that aren't as stringent. The details of training and the amount of training required could all be worked out by assembling a team of experts on the subject. Allow private property owners and businesses an "opt-out" option.
In Alaska everyone has the right to carry, openly or concealed. No permits required.
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Elven with all this, it is very important to remember that such tragedies as Newtown would not be totlaly prevented. Even just the type of gun violence we hear about on the news would not be totally prevented. I believe though, that if the above were implemented in to law, it would not unreasonably burden lawful gun owners but benefit them, while at the same time, help tremendously to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, or just people who should otherwise not have them.
So there you have it, my proposal for "common sense" reform.
Nothing you proposed would have prevented any of these school massacres from occurring. There is only one reform that could have actually preventing these school massacres, and that is the repeal of the Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995. As long as that law exists then schools will continue to be massacre magnets. Thanks entirely to the support of the anti-gun fanatics, like yourself. So the next time 20 children are killed in another school massacre, you can pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Their blood is on your hands.
So, still no real answers....but the real question is, why do you want to make more laws for law abiding citizens? No criminals care about the law....
It only effects us....not the criminals.
Everyone ignores the AWB '94 TO '04 that didn't work. That's ten years people...you had a fair shake.
Enough already.......
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