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Old 12-28-2012, 12:36 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Move to my State...then he wouldn't have to worry about it.

Gay marriage is a "thing" you dream up while tripping on acid.

It will NEVER happen here.....

End of case.

Bye bye now.......
You.....and relics who think like you......will be extinct in a few years.

Or, at the very least, will be part of a very small minority who will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

I hope I'm around to laugh my ass off at you when it happens. That will seriously make my day.

 
Old 12-28-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Move to my State...then he wouldn't have to worry about it.

Gay marriage is a "thing" you dream up while tripping on acid.

It will NEVER happen here.....

End of case.

Bye bye now.......
Yes it will. When the Supreme Court says it will happen there, it will happen. You don't get a choice in the matter.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Yes it will. When the Supreme Court says it will happen there, it will happen. You don't get a choice in the matter.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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Yes, of course.



Premarital sex is also intrinsically immoral, but it's not adultery and it doesn't invalidate a marriage. One can commit all kinds of sins before marriage and still be validly married.

Adultery is different. An adulterer cannot marry his or her partner because one or the other of them is already married to someone else. Yet, sometimes they pretend to do exactly that - just like homosexuals pretend to be married. If the owner of any business involved in celebrating marriages has certain knowledge that a particular "marriage" is an adulterous union rather than a valid marriage, that business should refuse services for the occasion.

Whether a business owner should take it upon himself to investigate the validity of every marriage for every event he is asked to serve is a different question. That would be wildly impractical. Unless one has infallible knowledge of an impediment to marriage (e.g., it's a same-sex couple), it's legitimate to make a presumption of validity for anyone who presents themselves as married.
Except homosexuality. Thanks for the clarification.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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Except homosexuality. Thanks for the clarification.
Homosexuality is not an exception. One can commit sins of a homosexual nature before and even during a perfectly valid marriage. Why is this so hard to grasp?

As for presumption of validity, that's impossible with same-sex couples because the marriage impediment is known to all.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Remember slavery? Jim Crow? Statutory law doesn't determine what's right or wrong; neither does it determine which rights are intrinsic to man and which rights are merely creatures of the state.
I remember that people with views similar to yours offered "Christian" explanations for their opposition to racial integration and interracial marriage, and formed "massive resistance" just as you wish would happen against gay marriage.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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I remember that people with views similar to yours offered "Christian" explanations for their opposition to racial integration and interracial marriage, and formed "massive resistance" just as you wish would happen against gay marriage.
There were Christians offering theological arguments on both sides of those controversies. One side was right and the other was wrong. What do any of those arguments have to do with this topic?
 
Old 12-28-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Homosexuality is not an exception. One can commit sins of a homosexual nature before and even during a perfectly valid marriage. Why is this so hard to grasp?

As for presumption of validity, that's impossible with same-sex couples because the marriage impediment is known to all.
What marriage impediment? If you mean having kids biologically, well then all sterile married couples, seniors are not married then because of their impediment. You are full of it and just keep spreading it around. Lies, lies and more lies from you. Sinning only pertains to those who believe in the bible, I do not and thus your views do not pertain to me. Keep your bible to yourself.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 03:22 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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There were Christians offering theological arguments on both sides of those controversies. One side was right and the other was wrong. What do any of those arguments have to do with this topic?
You are using your belief in your bible to argue points that pertain to everyone. Same as christians did with interracial marriage.. Your side is using their bible to make laws agains gay people, that is wrong and unjust.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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What marriage impediment?
The impediment of lacking a male or a female.

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Sinning only pertains to those who believe in the bible...
And thirst only pertains to those who believe in water.
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