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Old 12-26-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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He would have gotten 21 years.....at the max

Norway Shooter Anders Breivik Smiles at 21 Year Prison Sentence - ABC News



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James Holmes right now is thinking... "Dammit, I should have moved to Norway!!"
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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Is this where right wingers in the USA attempt to chastise what Norway chooses to do with their convicted felons, when they have a murder rate 1/5th the USA's white murder rate?

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Old 12-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Is there where right wingers in the USA attempt to chastise what Norway chooses to do with their convicted felons, when they have a murder rate 1/20th the USA's white murder rate?

I stand corrected, Norway....

Link to that stupid statistic you just posted?
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Is there where right wingers in the USA attempt to chastise what Norway chooses to do with their convicted felons, when they have a murder rate 1/5th the USA's white murder rate?
What about all the other variables. Apart from Oslo, there are no really big cities in Norway. Sure there are other cities, but they'd be considered pretty small by american standards...Rural areas tend to have lower crime after all, big cities, not so much, regardless of racial demographics.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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I stand corrected, Norway....

Link to that stupid statistic you just posted?
The post was edited to reflect 1/5th. the norway murder rate including all their citizens is .6 per 100,000

The USA white offender murder rate is 4.5 or 5 depending on the year. Likely went down recently. So

1/5th is a conservative estimate.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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Per Capita isn't an honest gauge here either...

The relationship between raw population is just way too disparaged. (5 million in Norway to 300+ million in America)

It's a skewed measure.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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He would have gotten 21 years.....at the max
Not true. He has a 21 year sentence with the addition of an indeterminate penalty extendable for preventive detention.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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Not true. He has a 21 year sentence with the addition of an indeterminate penalty extendable for preventive detention.
Which has not been exercised since 2002.

If he is a model citizen, he is getting out at 21.. and possibly after 10... a guy who killed 76 people will very likely be walking after 10 years.

So, let's adopt this philosophy?
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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That's a lot of ifs you have there.

If Lanza wa 900lbs he probably woulnd't have been able to carry out his plot.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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Per Capita isn't an honest gauge here either...

The relationship between raw population is just way too disparaged. (5 million in Norway to 300+ million in America)

It's a skewed measure.
Japan has 127 million people and a murder rate 2/3 of Norway at .4 per 100,000. So think of another excuse.

They don't lock and throw away the key in Japan.

I'm sorry but right wing views on punishment are not only barbaric, they don't work.
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