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Old 01-02-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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Number 1, you do not have the right to sex. And lets talk responsible. Are all guns owners responsible like many on the right want us to believe? the conn. shooter's mom was extremely irresponsible since she taught her son how to shot and use the gun even though she knew he was unstable and how about all the hunting accidents that heppen every year from responsible gun owners or the idiots cleaning their guns without checking for remaining bullets. We had a 12 year old get killed the other day because a responsible gun owner didn't properly identify his target. So until all gun owners act responsible then legislation is needed.
Firstly, to say the shooter's mom was extremely irresponsible is highly speculative. Hearsay is a better description. You don't know either one of them and you have no information other than what the media tells you and you aren't the psychiatrist who has been treating the shooter. In short, you are just running your mouth.

Secondly, since not all gun owners are responsible, then we should focus on those irresponsible ones by providing trainings and education programs to teach people. Take the analogy with cars, you don't ban cars just because there are irresponsible drivers, do you? Think about this, driving is privilege while keeping and bearing arms is right.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Why would call NRA's data garbage? Is it because it's mathematically or statistically flawed or factual wrong? Or is it because it tells you the inconvenient truth that you refuse to believe?

I would love to see that you cite one NRA's data and point out how it is wrong. I'd be right there with you if you can do that.
Like refusing over and over and over to explain why Western Europe/Canada/Australia/Japan's homicide rate is just a fraction of USA's one and why USA has a higher occurence of gun massacres?
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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She's not trying to get rid of handguns or concealed carry permits, she is trying to get rid of military style assault rifles that citizens don't need to have..

Many of use have been posting and showing you all how her bill WOULD ban a lot of handguns and shotguns also, not just military style firearms, they don't mention that in their talking points hoping the sheep who don't know better will support the ban.

We have also posted how many people do use military style rifles for target and hunting and that a 10 shot military type rifle is no more lethal than a 10 shot hunting rifle.

I wish you all would get into your head...........


What her bill is , is a gun banners wet dream, those that are for banning guns period will support her, the rest are going to find out they got taken for.

Those of you who are hunters, handgun people or shotgun people who say " mine aren't going to be banned so go ahead" are playing into their divide and conquer strategy and you are in for a big surprise.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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Like refusing over and over and over to explain why Western Europe/Canada/Australia/Japan's homicide rate is just a fraction of USA's one and why USA has a higher occurence of gun massacres?
Do you not understand this is a ridiculous comparison? What's your education background? I am very baffled as why you don't understand this.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Eight years of service as a Marine, including likely combat tours, and he only made Corporal? If he has an AR-15, he should be a good enough shot with it (you have to qualify with your weapon, likely the comparable M16/M4 for an enlisted Marine, to advance paygrades). Jon Hammar made Sergeant (with less or comparable time, although Joshua could have done four years Active, and four years Reserves), what is the deal?
The Marines are not like the Army. An E-4 in the Marine Corps is an NCO, and promotions are not as rapid in the Marine Corps as other military branches. I also served eight years in the Marine Corps (1972 through 1980) and made E-5.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Do you not understand this is a ridiculous comparison? What's your education background? I am very baffled as you don't understand this.
Why is a ridiculous comparison?
What don't you understand?
Isn't USA a developed country?
So I compare USA's murder rate with other first-world developed countries' one.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Name one.
The OP for one, who stands behind the 2nd Amendment yet states "I will not comply with her bill if it passes."

Or do you suffer the delusion that he or any else other than the SCOTUS has been empowered to decide whether any bill that passes is Constitutional?
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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Why is a ridiculous comparison?
What don't you understand?
Isn't USA a developed country?
So I compare USA's murder rate with other first-world developed countries' one.
Here's a good analysis you should read. Seriously.

Another thing before you start it's called "correlation doesn't not mean causation."

Articles: Murder by Numbers
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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Here's a good analysis you should read. Seriously.

Another thing before you start it's called "correlation doesn't not mean causation."

Articles: Murder by Numbers
Wow, a conservative article: it must be reliable ... few underpopulated states have low murder rates (some of them have also stricter gun laws such as Rhode Island and Hawaii)
Great, post the murder rates of southern states.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Sounds like the author of the letter has some issues...I mean many issues.

"some woman"...."I am the one whom you serve"...

He did a stint in the military and he now thinks he has some divine status and we should all bow down to him? It scares me that he's armed.
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