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You obviously (VERY OBVIOUSLY) do not understand the difference between blaming a victim and victim mentality. Wow.
She could have prevented her rape. She didn't.
She wasn't surprised checking her mail. She wasn't raped by a family member or an authority figure. She's not in a third world getting gang raped on a bus.
She went to a party, most likely against her parents wishes, she drank which was a crime, she trusted jocks and drank something given to her which is stupid.
Stupid is as stupid does...
I was taught a very enlightening lesson in the Army.
I left my foot locker unlocked one day. A fellow soldier stole some money.
Not my fault right? WRONG...
He was faulted for stealing and I was faulted for creating the situation where my fellow soldier could steal.
Took me awhile to get it but they were correct.
My actions led to the problem. My responsibility as well.
Yes, it is an attack. You know it, I know it. At least own it. Try to stick to the topic.
Hint: The topic isn't me.
It was an attack. And the boys, all of them who raped her deserve to be punished. What I'm saying, is that the best way to avoid these attacks in the future is to be CAUTIOUS and not drink alone with men. Bring another man, or even a girlfriend.
By bringing light her irresponsible behavior, I'm not trying to blame her. She has suffered enough. I'm hoping other women would learn from this and be more cautious. Deal?
For the last time I"M NOT TALKING ABOUT OHIO GIRL. SHE WAS UNCONSCIOUS. SHE WASN'T BLACKEDOUT. SHE WAS VERY CLEARLY RAPED. MY REFERENCE TO BLACKEDOUT WAS A PERSONAL STORY OF MINE. NOT THE GIRL IN THIS CASE.
OK, let me put it this way. If you get incredibly drunk and murder someone, but you do not remember it, and there is evidence to implicate you and the police charge you with murder, you will not be excused in any way because you were drunk.
Similarly, if you get incredibly drunk, and you are sexually assaulted (or otherwise assaulted), and you do not remember it, but you have reason to believe you were assaulted, you can report that assault to the police, and if there is evidence to support your claim, the perpetrator can be charged and found guilty of the assault. The fact that you were drunk and do not remember the assault will no doubt make it more difficult to prosecute, but it doesn't necessarily absolve the offender of a crime.
OK, let me put it this way. If you get incredibly drunk and murder someone, but you do not remember it, and there is evidence to implicate you and the police charge you with murder, you will not be excused in any way because you were drunk.
And likewise if you have consensual sex and don't remember the next day because of the amount of alcohol you consumed. It would still be considered consensual and not rape.
And likewise if you have consensual sex and don't remember the next day because of the amount of alcohol you consumed. It would still be considered consensual and not rape.
Unless you remember that it was consensual and she doesn't. Then its rape...
Unless you remember that it was consensual and she doesn't. Then its rape...
No rape isn't defined by who remembers and who doesn't. Rape is defined as having sex with someone against their will. Either because they weren't conscious to accept or refuse or because you overrode their decision by force.
I know that the laws as written can be ambiguous and in some cases men can be wrongfully slapped with rape. But we have to be clear what rape actually is.
Here is what I don't understand. How is it that these HS kids attended the parties of two "assistant coaches" ( or at least volunteer coaches) where they consumed alcohol and drugs? That's on the record. How is it people have not been charged? And how is it that this Head coach has not already been suspended for that fact alone? In Texas, heads would have rolled on the first day of something like this being known.
Sounds like the opening of a huge civil lawsuit. What idiot adult would throw a party for underage students and serve alcohol, I swear some people ar just begging to be sued.
Sounds like the opening of a huge civil lawsuit. What idiot adult would throw a party for underage students and serve alcohol, I swear some people ar just begging to be sued.
It seems the entire small town is corrupt. The principal or some official at the school (don't remember what his position from reading the anonymous article) had nudie pics in his email of students. I checked the wiki article on the town just to see if the case made it inside, to my surprise wiki already had a segment on corruption dating to previous events on this small town. Time to chop some heads and wash away the filth. The whole football program seemed to be a racket for a couple bars to sell drugs and make profits from illegal gambling.
Then we have a different definition of the term. Around my home, it's pretty much used to describe someone that has "passed out". So i can see the difference.
Still doesn't change the fact that she would never have had the opportunity to say "stop" at any point in time that a person has the right to say. And looking at the pictures, hearing the other students' comments, she was more "passed out" than "blacked out."
I think the confusion is that he was talking about a DIFFERENT girl being blacked out; not the Ohio girl.
I personally don't know very much about the evidence in this case. It certainly should not look good for the boys, but the prosecutor has to have evidence, and I thought I read that they were having trouble getting witnesses to come forward.
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