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Old 01-04-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: North America
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A loon took his mom's bushmaster, her handguns, and blew her away, then walked into an elementary school and ended a bunch of kids and teachers. I give a big damn about that. ..
You are just like the rest....***** when it happens...until then....mehhhhhh




This is your problem agian, you believe the MSM and everyone has 100 round magazines....



But we have tha ability too own these, why does that **** you off?



Common sence is understanding an argument, before you start the argument, which you have absoutley no understanding of what is going on. This is why you stand behind the MSM that "Black rifles" are the problem and even after providing evidence from the FBI that directly contridicts the MSM, you are still complaing about the eveil "Black Rifle" and 100 round magizines (ooppssss I mean clips, this way you understand what I'm talking about).

What about the PISTOLS that do NOT hold 100 round magizines...that killed over 6000 people last year....

Yes, you have fake outrage...



You have examples to show me? I'm waiting...[/quote]


No, I have real outrage. And I also have control on who I respond to, so welcome to my ignore crap pile. Feel free to add me to yours.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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So we should do...nothing. Good solution. How about actually suggesting something that would work, instead of tossing strawmen at the problem.

How about more cops in the schools? That would be a better idea than arming teachers.

Your turn.
Armed police on campus.
Mandatory life sentence for crime committed with firearm
Mandatory life sentence for convicted felon in possession of firearms
Mandatory life for second strike
Sentence for parents whose non adult kids or mentally unstable children committing crime.
Laws to punish the parents if their children are bullying others.
Ban all media reporting about mass murders.
Ban anything that glorify criminals and criminal activities
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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No, I have real outrage. And I also have control on who I respond to, so welcome to my ignore crap pile. Feel free to add me to yours.
Why the heck would I do that...your ignorant ramblings are funny....

And, no you have FAKE outrage...or you would be more pissed about Chichgo, and you are not...
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: North America
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Armed police on campus.
Mandatory life sentence for crime committed with firearm
Mandatory life sentence for convicted felon in possession of firearms
Mandatory life for second strike
Sentence for parents whose non adult kids or mentally unstable children committing crime.
Laws to punish the parents if their children are bullying others.
Ban all media reporting about mass murders.
Ban anything that glorify criminals and criminal activities

OK on everything except the last. It's unconstitutional.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Anti gun idiots, read it and weep.

Rifles and shotguns: 699
Hands, feet, etc: 726

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 11

Oh, and by the way;

Rifles: 343
Hammers and clubs: 496
Knives and cutting instruments: 1694

So before we ban rifles, let's ban knives, hammers and clubs.

Don't forget teeth. We now have the technology to make food into slurries. Yank em.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Wow, dude, just wow. How many dead kids are collateral damage to you? A list of the victims of the "any school shooting" Note how many are under ten years old.

- Charlotte Bacon, 2/22/06, female
- Daniel Barden, 9/25/05, male
- Rachel Davino, 7/17/83, female.
- Olivia Engel, 7/18/06, female
- Josephine Gay, 12/11/05, female
- Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 04/04/06, female
- Dylan Hockley, 3/8/06, male
- Dawn Hochsprung, 06/28/65, female
- Madeleine F. Hsu, 7/10/06, female
- Catherine V. Hubbard, 6/08/06, female
- Chase Kowalski, 10/31/05, male
- Jesse Lewis, 6/30/06, male
- James Mattioli , 3/22/06, male
- Grace McDonnell, 12/04/05, female
- Anne Marie Murphy, 07/25/60, female
- Emilie Parker, 5/12/06, female
- Jack Pinto, 5/06/06, male
- Noah Pozner, 11/20/06, male
- Caroline Previdi, 9/07/06, female
- Jessica Rekos, 5/10/06, female
- Avielle Richman, 10/17/06, female
- Lauren Rousseau, 6/1982, female (full date of birth not specified)
- Mary Sherlach, 2/11/56, female
- Victoria Soto, 11/04/85, female
- Benjamin Wheeler, 9/12/06, male
- Allison N. Wyatt, 7/03/06, female

How many would be "acceptable losses" to you?
Your premise is that a gun ban would prevent anything like this from happening via other means or by illegally obtaining a gun.

I don't like any school shootings, heck ANY shootings for that matter.

However, what I'm generally hearing over and over and over are people targeting 5% of the gun problem with proposals that are shown to be ineffective at acheiving the desired end result.

It's like someone suggesting that we impose an instant death sentence on any known gang members to reduce gun deaths and then when someone complains about the constitution and non-violent members, child members etc. we roll off a list of thousands of kids shot by gang members and then strawman you as not caring?
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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Anti gun idiots, read it and weep.

So before we ban rifles, let's ban knives, hammers and clubs.
Is that a joke?
How many mass murders were committed with bare hands? Why did the joker at the movie hall in CO did not use his hands? And gunman Adam Lanza? Why carry a load of guns if he could kill tens of people with bare hands?
Tell you the truth - I don't think even you believe what you wrote. Why not be honest and say: I like my guns and don't want to give them away, even with so many innocent victims.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Number of people killed using hands, fist, or feet, etc....726

Those evil assault weapons and shotguns...669....

Missed that huh.....
Since hands, fists and feet are much more "accessible" and ubiquitous weapons of choice for murder, why isn't the number much higher? One could very well argue that murders by assault weapons and shotguns are over-represented.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
Armed police on campus.
Mandatory life sentence for crime committed with firearm
Mandatory life sentence for convicted felon in possession of firearms
Mandatory life for second strike
Sentence for parents whose non adult kids or mentally unstable children committing crime.
Laws to punish the parents if their children are bullying others.
Ban all media reporting about mass murders.
Ban anything that glorify criminals and criminal activities
Numbers 2 - 6 are useless.

The last two might be effective since these idiots really want the shock value of publicity.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Is that a joke?
How many mass murders were committed with bare hands? Why did the joker at the movie hall in CO did not use his hands? And gunman Adam Lanza? Why carry a load of guns if he could kill tens of people with bare hands?
Tell you the truth - I don't think even you believe what you wrote. Why not be honest and say: I like my guns and don't want to give them away, even with so many innocent victims.
You obviously have a problem with sarcasm.

But the point is valid. Rifles are not a problem and banning them, registering them or restricting them will not reduce crime and not save any innocent victims.

The only thing worse than no law at all is a feel good law that accomplishes no good.
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