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Old 01-03-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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saying that the national Democrats' "socialistic" policies remind them too much of the top-down oligarchy they fled in their native land.

The left needs a strong centralized government to better redistribute private property.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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Yes, we see this in our labour party in the UK. On the one hand the conservative party are only too happy to stab one another in the back and have leadership contests every other month. Labour however, have an almost inner-circle socially nepotistic system going on, where leaders never face internal elections, and are never fired. Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, never elected to the role of PM by the public, was indeed never even elected to the role by his own party or membership! Similarly, Kinnock, despite losing 2 elections, was never forced to leave, but the party waited for him to do so on his own. This seems to be a very communistic system, whereby the same leader would probably stay in office till he died if he had the chance.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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The left needs a strong centralized government to better redistribute private property.
Too bad that our liberals have not spent any time in the old USSR, North Korea, Albania, or Cuba. Then, perhaps, they would not be liberals.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Too bad that our liberals have not spent any time in the old USSR, North Korea, Albania, or Cuba. Then, perhaps, they would not be liberals.
I spent several months in the old USSR, and I understand perfectly well that nothing that is envisioned by today's Democratic Party is even close to that totalitarian hell.

What about you? Do you have first-hand experience of Communism, and can you honestly -- without resorting to hackneyed propaganda -- say that Obama is leading us there?
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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"We decided we had to support this club," said Fridman, a former Soviet Army officer who came to the United States in 1992. "They are very close to our political and business vision."
So this was part of the oppressive regime and had no problems collecting a paycheck from the Soviet Union as a henchman, then all of a sudden decides to flees Soviet Union after the USSR collapses. Coincidence? Decides to bail after the checks stop coming.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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Too bad our conservatives never spent anytime in Fascist Germany, Italy, or Spain, perhaps if they did then they wouldn't be conservatives.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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"We decided we had to support this club," said Fridman, a former Soviet Army officer who came to the United States in 1992. "They are very close to our political and business vision."

So this was part of the oppressive regime and had no problems collecting a paycheck from the Soviet Union as a henchman, then all of a sudden decides to flees Soviet Union after the USSR collapses. Coincidence? Decides to bail after the checks stop coming.
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the national Democrats' "socialistic" policies remind them too much of the top-down oligarchy they fled in their native land.
Those 'oligarchs' only rose to prominence after the Soviet Union collapsed. In fact, the oligarchy that currently rules Russia owes a lot more to unfettered crony capitalism than to Communism.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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I spent several months in the old USSR, and I understand perfectly well that nothing that is envisioned by today's Democratic Party is even close to that totalitarian hell.

What about you? Do you have first-hand experience of Communism, and can you honestly -- without resorting to hackneyed propaganda -- say that Obama is leading us there?
Envisioned?

HA!

I sure the commies never 'envisioned' food shortages, exploding power stations, perpetual war, and the need to torture and imprison dissidents either.

No, im sure they thought their price controls, total ownership and propaganda efforts would make produce plentiful and the subjects contented good little unquestioning communists.

It never works out as 'envisioned'

Thats why we all must demand communism and socialism are never treated as anything other than (deeply flawed) theories.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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So this was part of the oppressive regime and had no problems collecting a paycheck from the Soviet Union as a henchman, then all of a sudden decides to flees Soviet Union after the USSR collapses. Coincidence? Decides to bail after the checks stop coming.
You dont think maybe, just maybe it was a little easier to escape after the collapse?
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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You dont think maybe, just maybe it was a little easier to escape after the collapse?
For the average person, yes, for a Russian military officer who might have had connections to the Kremlin? No.

This guy is crying about socialism yet he was as government worker for the Soviet Union, and he worked as an officer in the military, WTF????

That would be like a former Nazi officer warning that the GOP are fascists.
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